Logic vs. Theism
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13-03-2017, 07:28 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(13-03-2017 07:21 PM)JesseB Wrote:  
(13-03-2017 07:16 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  You keep telling us to read Bible verses as if the Bible were some kind of authority, all the while ignoring my OP. Read the Bible, read the Bible, do what it says. Why should we when it has been shown to be contrary to reason. You people are really good at compartmentalization, I'll tell you.

You mean like this kid?



> Obviously, the kid was good at memorizing the Bible, but had zero understanding of how those verses were supposed to be applied to everyone in their daily lives. Epic fail! His dad wasn't able to offer any credible explanations or excuses either. Facepalm
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13-03-2017, 07:36 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
There has to be justice too fucked not to have justice but god is compassionate and doesnt want anyone to go to hell.
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13-03-2017, 07:38 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(13-03-2017 07:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be justice too fucked not to have justice but god is compassionate and doesnt want anyone to go to hell.

There is no justice in an eternal punishment for a finite crime. You are demonstrably wrong.

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13-03-2017, 07:44 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
If you accept god, no matter how horrible you've been, no matter the murders, no matter the crime you go to heaven.'

If you reject god, no matter how good or kind you are you go to hell.

See all the judgement in the bible can be boiled down to one thing, there is only 1 sin and everything else is just an example of that one sin. If you don't accept the brainwashing that is converting to the religion you have sinned. All other sins are just the example of the that 1 sin. love god or die. There is no write or wrong, good or evil. It boils down to either accept your enslavement to the imaginary god or die. And once you die its too late, you can't change your mind when you might possibly have evidence to inform your decision. Right and wrong good and evil can be replaced with enslavement to god or punishment from god now pick.

Your only justification for whats "bad" is god says so, you're only justification for whats "good" is god says so. Meaning there really isn't good or evil, there's just your god, love him or die.

There is no justice in your system. I call bullshit.

Edit^ Also your god is a hypocrite if you break his rules but love him you still win. So believe in god and murder all you want, its ok you're forgiven.

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13-03-2017, 07:52 PM
Logic vs. Theism
(13-03-2017 07:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be justice too fucked not to have justice but god is compassionate and doesnt want anyone to go to hell.


If your god doesn't want anyone to go to hell, why did it make hell in the first place?
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13-03-2017, 09:10 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(13-03-2017 07:36 PM)socialistview Wrote:  There has to be justice too fucked not to have justice but god is compassionate and doesnt want anyone to go to hell.

You mean I don't have to go down in God's basement? Good news!




"Theology made no provision for evolution. The biblical authors had missed the most important revelation of all! Could it be that they were not really privy to the thoughts of God?" - E. O. Wilson
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13-03-2017, 09:22 PM
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If there's an afterlife then there should be judgement and reward but gods judgement is a mystery sodom will have it better for the jews on judgement day.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%202
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13-03-2017, 09:44 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(13-03-2017 09:22 PM)socialistview Wrote:  If there's an afterlife then there should be judgement and reward but gods judgement is a mystery sodom will have it better for the jews on judgement day.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%202

baseless assertion. WHY should there be judgement or reward. Because you say? because that's how you want it to work? Also why should anyone believe there is an afterlife. Because you say? because that's how you want it to work?

You're not adding anything to the discussion at this point. I would encourage you to try and listen to the responses and work harder at formulating a coherent response.

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13-03-2017, 09:58 PM
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Why should their be consequences for fairness I guess I'm saying in the bibles theology god is just to have judgement for evil doers. We should believe becuase somethings telling us it will come back as proof. Not oh this happen and its over.
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13-03-2017, 10:03 PM
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(13-03-2017 09:58 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Why should their be consequences for fairness I guess I'm saying in the bibles theology god is just to have judgement for evil doers. We should believe becuase somethings telling us it will come back as proof. Not oh this happen and its over.

No there shouldn't, you've provided no evidence why it should. And we shouldn't believe anything without damn good reason to do so.

If we wen't extinct tomorrow and some other species found our remains and tried piecing it all together, they would be like. Whelp the world's still here.... Thanks for the warning against religion long dead species.

Also use the fucking reply button. please Smile

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