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17-03-2017, 05:07 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(17-03-2017 03:38 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  I find him somewhat interesting in a wtf kind of way, though, and his posts are much easier to read than those of someone like Tomasia, who blathers on and on at length. SV is at least short and pithy -- kind of like a zen koan, but without the redeeming social value.

Damn it, you made me wake the cat laughing at that. Now he's going to want to be fed and I'll have to get up...

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17-03-2017, 05:14 PM
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(16-03-2017 03:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ... But have faith that's all I can tell you because having evidence for god is not faith.

Faith is defined as "belief without evidence".

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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17-03-2017, 05:16 PM
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(17-03-2017 05:14 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
(16-03-2017 03:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  ... But have faith that's all I can tell you because having evidence for god is not faith.

Faith is defined as "belief without evidence".

Another good word for this is... gullibility....

Thanks SYZ

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17-03-2017, 08:42 PM
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I wonder how much thought goes into theist posts like this.

Does he stop, ponder, maybe go away and think a bit and then post the results? Or does he post the first thing that comes into his head? Because it appears to be the latter.

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17-03-2017, 08:43 PM
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(16-03-2017 03:09 PM)socialistview Wrote:  How do you know its mythology its telling you that you will get real physical results if you obeys gods command. But have faith that's all I can tell you becuase hav ing evidence for god is not faith.

So in telling us to have faith, you are demonstrating exactly what I was pointing out in my OP. Have faith. look inwards to the contents of your imagination. That's what you are essentially telling us to do when you tell us to have faith. Don't look outward at reality for knowledge, look inwards and give the inner primacy over the outer. This is the primacy of consciousness. You and fschmidt have both been cases in point. You've both demonstrated that your worldviews are incompatible with logic. You've both demonstrated the truth of my OP. Thank you.

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17-03-2017, 08:48 PM
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Believe what you happened to have been told, regardless of a complete lack of evidence to sustain it.

The problem with this system is that you just believe whatever you happen to have been told, whether it's true or not. Doesn't that concern anyone?

In the case of religion, it's just about believing the one you hear about first. How does that make it "more true" than the others? I know there are exceptions, but mostly this is what people do.

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18-03-2017, 07:31 PM
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https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html
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18-03-2017, 07:37 PM
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(18-03-2017 07:31 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html

Do you ever have thoughts of your own to share? or just links so others can think for you?

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18-03-2017, 08:04 PM
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(18-03-2017 07:31 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html

Yeah, just keep ignoring the OP and keep on quoting from that fraudulent book.

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18-03-2017, 08:27 PM
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(18-03-2017 07:31 PM)socialistview Wrote:  https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-slavery.html

> The author of this article merely vacillates on different types and degrees of slavery, not whether or not the Bible approves of the practice. Obviously, if the Bible lays down the rules for how one is to treat human chattel and from whom slaves can be purchased, and who can legitimately be enslaved---it is sanctioning the practice. Consider
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