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22-10-2015, 07:16 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 01:41 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  In the beginning God created... everything we know.
... and don't know.

(22-10-2015 01:41 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  So which came first, the everything or God?
Our God was created first. Then He created heaven and earth and everything that in them.
According to the Bible God doesn't claim that He created everything.

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22-10-2015, 07:18 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:16 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 01:41 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  In the beginning God created... everything we know.
... and don't know.

(22-10-2015 01:41 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  So which came first, the everything or God?
Our God was created first. Then He created heaven and earth and everything that in them.
According to the Bible God doesn't claim that He created everything.

Who, or what created god?
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22-10-2015, 07:19 PM
RE: Logic
(20-10-2015 12:36 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  
(16-10-2015 07:18 PM)Chas Wrote:  You're making that up and it doesn't even make sense. Why would you think there is no time without light?


My idea? I'm not the one claiming "outside the universe", you idiot.

You are unaware that time is tied to light?

You are unaware that your own stated claim that the universe was always here, even if has always been expanding and contracting, goes against the laws of nature?

Where did I make that claim? Consider Quote me or shut the fuck up.

Hint: I never made that claim.

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22-10-2015, 07:21 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 04:21 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(21-10-2015 02:23 PM)Alla Wrote:  What is heaven? How big is it? How many more worlds(heavens) did God create before this world(heaven)?
...
He created heavens yesterday, He creates heavens today(may be even right now), and He will create new heavens forever.

Goddam Alla did you just literally interpret "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." as being not imminent but immediate like Girly does. Heaven and Hell are both here and now. You decide which it is.

The LDS story is fanciful but I'm starting to think there aren't a lot of differences between their fundamental metaphysics and mine.
Yes, you can say that heaven and hell are here and now. We can say for sure that there is more hell than heaven here.
Heaven or hell as many other words are interpreted both ways: literally and symbolically. So, there are literal heaven and literal hell and there are symbolic heaven and symbolic hell.

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22-10-2015, 07:23 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:18 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 07:16 PM)Alla Wrote:  ... and don't know.

Our God was created first. Then He created heaven and earth and everything that in them.
According to the Bible God doesn't claim that He created everything.

Who, or what created god?
His God.
P.S. I am waiting for those cute turtles.

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22-10-2015, 07:33 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 04:21 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Goddam Alla did you just literally interpret "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." as being not imminent but immediate like Girly does. Heaven and Hell are both here and now. You decide which it is.

The LDS story is fanciful but I'm starting to think there aren't a lot of differences between their fundamental metaphysics and mine.
Yes, you can say that heaven and hell are here and now. We can say for sure that there is more hell than heaven here.
Heaven or hell as many other words are interpreted both ways: literally and symbolically. So, there are literal heaven and literal hell and there are symbolic heaven and symbolic hell.




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22-10-2015, 07:35 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:23 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 07:18 PM)pablo Wrote:  Who, or what created god?
His God.
P.S. I am waiting for those cute turtles.

Seems more like plate spinning. Tongue
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22-10-2015, 07:48 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:33 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 07:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  Yes, you can say that heaven and hell are here and now. We can say for sure that there is more hell than heaven here.
Heaven or hell as many other words are interpreted both ways: literally and symbolically. So, there are literal heaven and literal hell and there are symbolic heaven and symbolic hell.



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22-10-2015, 07:49 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:35 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 07:23 PM)Alla Wrote:  His God.
P.S. I am waiting for those cute turtles.

Seems more like plate spinning. Tongue
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22-10-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: Logic
(22-10-2015 07:23 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(22-10-2015 07:18 PM)pablo Wrote:  Who, or what created god?
His God.
P.S. I am waiting for those cute turtles.

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