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23-05-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: Looking for 1 volunteer for an experiment
(23-05-2016 01:13 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  Native English speaker = british / citizen of england who speaks.

No, it means anybody who was brought up speaking English. That includes Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc. You are simply wrong. Again.

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23-05-2016, 01:20 PM
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(23-05-2016 01:13 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 01:05 PM)julep Wrote:  
Silentroar Wrote:"A native English speaker" = first of , native Americans Were not "ENGLISH". If you say "Native English" you are directly implying "British"

I can give you a few links on history if that interests you.

No, "native English speaker" means someone for whom English was the first language they learned (another way to say it would be that English is the speaker's mother tongue).

American English and British English have slightly different rules for spelling and punctuation and some differences in the way some words are defined.

Native English speaker = british / citizen of england who speaks.

No. Just, no.
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23-05-2016, 01:27 PM
RE: Looking for 1 volunteer for an experiment
(23-05-2016 01:20 PM)CosmicRaven Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 01:13 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  Native English speaker = british / citizen of england who speaks.

No. Just, no.
Dude, it's okay to be wrong. It's an opportunity to learn.

Extract from google somewhere -

Yes! You want native English speaker, not English native speaker.
Here is the reason:
A person who speaks English is an English speaker.

The person (the English speaker) is speaking English in a native manner.
Native modifies "English" and not the person (speaker). A native person is someone who is living in the place where they were born, or the original inhabitants of a country (native Americans were called Indians)
Thus, the correct sequence is native (which modifies) English (which modifies) speaker.


So yes i was wrong.

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23-05-2016, 01:28 PM
RE: Looking for 1 volunteer for an experiment
(23-05-2016 01:13 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 01:05 PM)julep Wrote:  "A native English speaker" = first of , native Americans Were not "ENGLISH". If you say "Native English" you are directly implying "British"

I can give you a few links on history if that interests you.

No, "native English speaker" means someone for whom English was the first language they learned (another way to say it would be that English is the speaker's mother tongue).

American English and British English have slightly different rules for spelling and punctuation and some differences in the way some words are defined.

Native English speaker = british / citizen of england who speaks.
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23-05-2016, 01:28 PM
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(23-05-2016 12:39 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  The word English describes citizens of ENGLAND , as well as the spoken language.

Yes, it does, but those are distinct meanings and they do not both apply every time the word is used. The phrase "native English speaker" refers to a native speaker of (the) English (language), not an English native speaking. The 'English' in the phrase is a noun, not an adjective.

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23-05-2016, 01:31 PM
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(23-05-2016 01:27 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  So yes i was wrong.

As CR said, being wrong is not a problem, it is an opportunity to learn. Kudos for admitting it.

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23-05-2016, 01:31 PM
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(23-05-2016 01:28 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(23-05-2016 12:39 PM)Silentroar Wrote:  The word English describes citizens of ENGLAND , as well as the spoken language.

Yes, it does, but those are distinct meanings and they do not both apply every time the word is used. The phrase "native English speaker" refers to a native speaker of (the) English (language), not an English native speaking. The 'English' in the phrase is a noun, not an adjective.

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23-05-2016, 01:35 PM
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(23-05-2016 01:20 PM)CosmicRaven Wrote:  Dude, it's okay to be wrong. It's an opportunity to learn.

These words are a golden. thank you.

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23-05-2016, 01:59 PM (This post was last modified: 23-05-2016 02:14 PM by Silentroar.)
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The sock sniffers will rejoice at my defeat. Big Grin .

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23-05-2016, 02:03 PM
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That was painful to read. Perhaps if this conversation was had in person it wouldn't have been as agonizing.

I do like the Dunning-Kruger effect reference though Thumbsup

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