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19-10-2012, 11:29 AM
Looking for your help with Heinlein sig
Talking about Heinlein made me think about the wonderful things he's said. Now I want to go back and read all his greats. But, to whet my appetite, I googled a few quotes of his.

Now I'm trying to pick one for a sig here on the forums. So tell me, what's your favorite?

Here's a quick compilation of some candidates from Robert Heinlein at his best, but feel free to add some of your own favorites too:

One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.

The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning, while those other subjects merely require scholarship.

The hardest part about gaining any new idea is sweeping out the false idea occupying that niche. As long as that niche is occupied, evidence and proof and logical demonstration get nowhere. But once the niche is emptied of the wrong idea that has been filling it - once you can honestly say, I don't know, then it becomes possible to get at the truth.

Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.

I’ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the one true religion by faith—it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.

The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history.

"Whores perform the same function as priests, but far more thoroughly." - Robert A. Heinlein
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19-10-2012, 01:20 PM
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I don't have a sig for you, but I grew up with Heinlein's classics: The Puppet Masters was my favorite followed closely by The Man Who Sold the Moon. As a 14 or 15 year old, I enjoyed jacking off with Stranger in a Strange Land.

Thinking back, it amazes me how much I loved Asimov, Heinlein and Bradbury, yet never was influenced by their atheism. Maybe sometime I should go back and read some of those classics with a freer mind. Consider

"All that is necessary for the triumph of Calvinism is that good Atheists do nothing." ~Eric Oh My
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19-10-2012, 03:15 PM (This post was last modified: 23-10-2012 01:13 PM by kim.)
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(19-10-2012 01:20 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  As a 14 or 15 year old, I enjoyed jacking off with Stranger in a Strange Land.

Reading comprehension might be somewhat different for males and females.

Heinlein was quite preachy, I thought. Loved his work - especially Stranger in a Strange Land... not as much as some, it seems. Dodgy

How about...
I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill.

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.

Theologians can persuade themselves of anything.

One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.

Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. Wink

I think in the end, I just feel like I'm a secular person who has a skeptical eye toward any extraordinary claim, carefully examining any extraordinary evidence before jumping to conclusions. ~ Eric ~ My friend ... who figured it out.
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19-10-2012, 03:23 PM
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(19-10-2012 03:15 PM)kim Wrote:  
(19-10-2012 01:20 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  As a 14 or 15 year old, I enjoyed jacking off with Stranger in a Strange Land.
Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. Wink

Yes. This is what I was doing.

In full disclosure, I also used to jack off to the Bible and the Sears catalog.

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19-10-2012, 03:24 PM
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Ooo. I like that man.

Might just have to go read Moon is a harsh mistress and Starship troopers again Smile Two of my all time faves. Pretty sure there's some quotable quotes in there.
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19-10-2012, 03:28 PM
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(19-10-2012 01:20 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  I don't have a sig for you, but I grew up with Heinlein's classics: The Puppet Masters was my favorite followed closely by The Man Who Sold the Moon. As a 14 or 15 year old, I enjoyed jacking off with Stranger in a Strange Land.

Well, I didn't go that far (maybe because I had better porn), but I still have a soft spot in my heart for Gillian today.

(19-10-2012 01:20 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  Thinking back, it amazes me how much I loved Asimov, Heinlein and Bradbury, yet never was influenced by their atheism. Maybe sometime I should go back and read some of those classics with a freer mind. Consider

Are you sure you weren't influenced? Could they maybe have laid the foundation, just a little, even if you didn't know it then?

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19-10-2012, 03:37 PM
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Moon and Troopers are two of my favorites too. I'm also a fan of Glory Road, though most people don't care for that one much.

Probably my favorite of all is Job: A Comedy of Justice. I'll share one good quote:

The very basis of the Judeo-Christian code is injustice, the scapegoat system. The scapegoat sacrifice runs all through the Old Testament, then it reaches its height in the New Testament with the notion of the Martyred Redeemer. How can justice possibly be served by loading your sins on another? Whether it be a lamb having its throat cut ritually, or a Messiah nailed to a cross and "dying for your sins". Somebody should tell all of Yahweh's followers, Jews and Christians, that there is no such thing as a free lunch.
- Lucifer, from JOB: A Comedy of Justice by Robert A. Heinlein

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19-10-2012, 05:32 PM
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There is a book with lots of quotes, "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long". Not sure if it is still in print though, I got it a long, long time ago. It is one of my favorites though.
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22-10-2012, 12:19 PM
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Sadly, while Lazarus Long can toss off a really clever quotable from time to time, I generally find his character to be boring and, in my opinion, Heinlein spent way too much time writing way too many books starring this boring guy. So I attribute his good lines to him having a good writer and ignore the rest of his story.

I am, however, thankful that Heinlein didn't turn Podkayne of Mars into a recurring title character...

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22-10-2012, 03:38 PM
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(22-10-2012 12:19 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  Sadly, while Lazarus Long can toss off a really clever quotable from time to time, I generally find his character to be boring and, in my opinion, Heinlein spent way too much time writing way too many books starring this boring guy. So I attribute his good lines to him having a good writer and ignore the rest of his story.

I am, however, thankful that Heinlein didn't turn Podkayne of Mars into a recurring title character...

Oh, c,mon; the guy wears a kilt, has a needler strapped on one thigh and a knife on the other. I bet he drinks Dos Equis.


I do, however, agree about Podkayne.

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