Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
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06-08-2017, 04:04 PM
Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Which essentially is the positon that prayer and good thoughts are going to get rid of his tongue cancer.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/sp...spartandhp

I have shaken my head far too much these past few days.

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Honestly, I hope he heals up. I wouldn't attribute the random healing of his cancer to prayer if it did go away though. Regardless, it is foolish ideologies like these that genuinely have the capacity to trick people into putting either themselves, or others, in mortal danger.

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06-08-2017, 05:12 PM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Darwin Award.

Sad...

But...


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06-08-2017, 10:03 PM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
He played a shitty Batman anyways.
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06-08-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Top Secret was funny.

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06-08-2017, 11:05 PM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Such screwed up beliefs. God has the power to heal people from the ailments it allowed them to receive; but it will only do so if you point them out and beg. And even then, only sometimes.

God has a plan which is beyond our understanding! It knows what is best for us. But then they plead with it to change that plan.

Whatever God wills, that's what will happen. It was already aware of everything that's going to happen when it created the universe. So prayer is simply hoping that a certain thing will happen. This is no different from an atheist saying they hope he gets better. Which, of course, I do. But I'm not expressing it in the form of pleading with some celestial dictator to stop being such a cunt for five minutes.

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06-08-2017, 11:27 PM
Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
(06-08-2017 11:03 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  Top Secret was funny.


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07-08-2017, 01:45 AM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Let's assume that this guy, like most religious people, thinks that God agrees with him about what you need to do to get into heaven.

Why would he want the cancer cured? He wants God to delay his passage to the vastly superior life waiting for him? Why? This would seem like a perfect loophole, since you can't be blamed for contracting cancer.

It seems like he doesn't really believe he's going anywhere at all when he dies.

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07-08-2017, 03:42 AM
Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
It will be one fool less. Nothing to cry over.

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07-08-2017, 04:32 AM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Taking it further:

He doesn't really believe he's going anywhere, but he does believe in this God enough to risk his life by putting his faith in prayer. So what does he actually believe? This God is real, but that it won't follow through on its promise to take him to heaven when he dies?

It's so hard to understand how people can cope with all this shit in their heads.

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07-08-2017, 05:48 AM
RE: Looks like Val Kilmer is gonna kill himself with "Christian Science..."
Quote:Such screwed up beliefs. God has the power to heal people from the ailments it allowed them to receive; but it will only do so if you point them out and beg. And even then, only sometimes.

This

(07-08-2017 01:45 AM)Robvalue Wrote:  Let's assume that this guy, like most religious people, thinks that God agrees with him about what you need to do to get into heaven.

Why would he want the cancer cured? He wants God to delay his passage to the vastly superior life waiting for him? Why? This would seem like a perfect loophole, since you can't be blamed for contracting cancer.

It seems like he doesn't really believe he's going anywhere at all when he dies.

And this.

It's amazing how some people can't follow their thoughts to their own logical conclusions. I do suspect sometimes that deep down religious people know that there's nothing waiting for them after death. It may be subconscious, perhaps even an innate, almost animalistic knowledge that death is not beneficial. But I still think it's there in every sentient life form, or why would conscious beings go to such great lengths to avoid it for as long as they can?

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