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28-03-2014, 01:34 PM
RE: MH370 confirmed as, all souls lost at sea.
(28-03-2014 11:24 AM)Magoo Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 05:46 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  OH and a bunch of the families are sueing Malaysian Airways AND Boeing. So there's that.

No one cares what happens as long as they get money, typical.

Huh

Are you actually implying that the family members will get over all grievances by being awarded a lump of cash?

It's compensation, not a golden-bullet vanquisher of emotional turmoil.

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28-03-2014, 02:10 PM (This post was last modified: 28-03-2014 02:20 PM by fmanh2.)
RE: MH370 confirmed as, all souls lost at sea.
(24-03-2014 04:20 PM)Paranoidsam Wrote:  
(24-03-2014 04:10 PM)Jeffasaurus Wrote:  It seems obvious that the black box should have a LoJack, RFID transmitter, or some other means of GPS tracking. This whole mystery of the missing plane (complete with moronic black hole/Bermuda Triangle theories) could have been eliminated, and replaced by rescue boats and divers. Additionally, if the box was jettisoned upon impact (triggered by something comparable to SRS impact sensors) and buoyant in water, regardless of the depth and dispersal of wreckage it would be easy to recover.

Black boxes do have a locator beacon, but if its under several thousand feet of ocean it might not be detected... And they have a limited power supply, but it should still be broadcasting.

Given the search areas size and the fact that the becon only is heard abot 10 km away, and that the medium depth in the area is 3 km... Well, do the math. In the air France case we knew the location of the plane up until 4 minutes before transmission was broken (no mayday there either). It took 2 month to locate the wreck, 50 bodies of 229 where found, it took additionally 2 years to locate the black box (at a depth of 1500 meters). In this case we only now up until the nearest half hour when it crashed. And we don't know the airspeed nor the wind directions or height all relevant to calculate a crash site. Quite frankly, we would be *extremely* lucky if we would find even a fragment of this aircraft. We will most likely only have secondary data to go on. Or as the aussies said; This isn't about finding a needle in a haystack, we haven't even found the haystack to look in yet.
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28-03-2014, 06:52 PM
RE: MH370 confirmed as, all souls lost at sea.
(24-03-2014 02:19 PM)sporehux Wrote:  http://news.sky.com/story/1231155/inmars...as-tracked

No other hypothesis has any legitimacy with this new data, something happened to kill communications and force an emergency turnaround, plane did a 180 deg turn and (most likely with all people on-board unconscious) flew on semi auto-pilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed off the west coast of Australia.

Conspiracy theorists and Fox news that were bare face lying about the "good night" message being sent after the 180 deg turn just to validate their hijacking assumption, can fuck off now.

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30-03-2014, 08:07 AM
RE: MH370 confirmed as, all souls lost at sea.
(28-03-2014 01:34 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 11:24 AM)Magoo Wrote:  No one cares what happens as long as they get money, typical.

Huh

Are you actually implying that the family members will get over all grievances by being awarded a lump of cash?

It's compensation, not a golden-bullet vanquisher of emotional turmoil.

More than likely, Magoo is just revealing his shallowness and how he would feel in that situation.
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30-03-2014, 04:12 PM
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(30-03-2014 08:07 AM)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 01:34 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:  Huh

Are you actually implying that the family members will get over all grievances by being awarded a lump of cash?

It's compensation, not a golden-bullet vanquisher of emotional turmoil.

More than likely, Magoo is just revealing his shallowness and how he would feel in that situation.


No - he is being quite honestly cynical about people's reasons for suing. Drinking Beverage

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30-03-2014, 06:41 PM
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(30-03-2014 04:12 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(30-03-2014 08:07 AM)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:  More than likely, Magoo is just revealing his shallowness and how he would feel in that situation.


No - he is being quite honestly cynical about people's reasons for suing. Drinking Beverage

In this case I don't see any reason for cynicism towards the victim's families.
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01-04-2014, 10:17 AM
RE: MH370 confirmed as, all souls lost at sea.
(24-03-2014 04:05 PM)Paranoidsam Wrote:  Pilots and ATC always use "good day" and "good night" when handing off to another frequency... Its used all over the world, and is completely routine.

But, FOX like to talk shit...

It's not required for ATC radio communications. That being said, it's just a common courtesy between the pilot and cotroller and vice versa. A pilot is only required to acknowledge he/she is being handed over to another controller although ATC usually likes to hear the flight crew read back the new center frequency that was assigned.

This is a typical handoff

JACKSONVILLE CENTER: "Cirrus three-one-five-two-Romeo contact Atlanta Center one-two-zero-point-four-five."

CIRRUS N3152R: "Going to Atlanta Center one-two-zero-point-four-five, Cirrus five-two-Romeo."

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01-04-2014, 10:27 AM
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(24-03-2014 04:49 PM)sporehux Wrote:  Lookup Greece Helios Flight 522
particularly the "incapacitation of the crew due to hypoxia".
Pilots fell unconscious before figuring out there was an oxygen issue.
and the Payne Stewart zombie flight.

It doesn't seem that mysterious when you look at past accidents where the crew and passengers were rendered unconscious simply by a failed pressurisation system.

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This theory has it's problems, especially in light of the fact that the aircraft changed course at least once hours after its last contact with ATC.

Also, for overwater flights like that, I believe they have at least one of the flight crewmembers wearing a quick donning oxygen mask and using supplemental O2 at or above FL350. In addition, if you have a sudden depressurization you still have a time of useful consciousness of about 15-20 seconds for the crew to don emergency oxygen. Any kind of failure in the pressurization system would have produced a visual and auditory alert from the EICAS when the cabin altitude exceeded 14,000 ft.

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01-04-2014, 10:39 AM
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(24-03-2014 07:30 PM)Bows and Arrows Wrote:  I doubt they will find it, ever. They are having so much trouble just trying to locate "possible" debris from the plane. Then they have to figure out where it floated from since March 8th. Add in a few ocean storms and a deep ocean, I doubt they will locate it.

20 years from now James Cameron or someone similar with a DSV will find the remains of MH370 lying at the bottom of the Indian Ocean in the proximity of the current search area.

Until then MH370 just completed its no-stopover approach into Atlantis International.

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18-06-2014, 06:48 AM
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MH370 Revised Possible Location

Per more informed analysis of satellite data, this sounds reasonable.

The last sentence of the article is troubling - and is perhaps why this has gone on as long as it has, and may be further prolonged.
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