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23-05-2017, 04:10 AM
RE: Manchester England
This is so horrific.

I hate the idea of heaven/paradise so much. I wish it could be erased from every human brain.
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23-05-2017, 04:26 AM
RE: Manchester England
Part of my family comes from Manchester so I know it well, I also know they are kind but tough people and they and my country will prevail. The loss of children and young person is horrific, but Isis are unfortunately like that. As much as I dislike Trump his response was appreciated here they are indeed fucking losers thanks to everyone for the lovely responses here and fuck those terrorist assholes. Sad
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23-05-2017, 04:35 AM
RE: Manchester England
Arndale centre in Manchester being evacuated shots fired. Breaking news. Bastards Angry
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23-05-2017, 04:52 AM
RE: Manchester England
False alarm at the shopping centre thankfully.
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23-05-2017, 05:11 AM
RE: Manchester England
(23-05-2017 03:56 AM)Norm Deplume Wrote:  I was planning to go to Manchester today. That got cancelled when I switched the radio on this morning and found out about this appalling horror.

There is a COBRA meeting going on at the moment in Downing Street. There should be a press briefing fairly soon.

[Cobra committee meetings deal with national emergencies - it stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A, where the meetings are usually held.]

Cool acronym.

#sigh
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23-05-2017, 05:38 AM
RE: Manchester England
Losing a loved one, especially a child, in such circumstances has to be unbelievably devastating. The perp is evil. Obviously.

That aside, religion is a problem. But it isn't the problem. It is just the tool that contributes to one aspect of the problem. If we focus on it solely the way we have been, I think we will fail to understand what's going on.

Those of us old enough will likely remember the IRA terror campaigns of the 70s, 80s and 90s. The perps were Irish Catholics. Catholicism was a part of the problem. But it was not the problem.

There was a more fundamental problem that fueled that conflict and it had nothing to do with the superstious beliefs promoted by the Vatican. I suspect that is also the situation today, but with different actors.

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23-05-2017, 06:06 AM
Manchester England
I don't even know how to comment on this. It's so horrific.
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23-05-2017, 06:08 AM
RE: Manchester England
(23-05-2017 05:38 AM)tomilay Wrote:  Losing a loved one, especially a child, in such circumstances has to be unbelievably devastating. The perp is evil. Obviously.

That aside, religion is a problem. But it isn't the problem. It is just the tool that contributes to one aspect of the problem. If we focus on it solely the way we have been, I think we will fail to understand what's going on.

Those of us old enough will likely remember the IRA terror campaigns of the 70s, 80s and 90s. The perps were Irish Catholics. Catholicism was a part of the problem. But it was not the problem.

There was a more fundamental problem that fueled that conflict and it had nothing to do with the superstious beliefs promoted by the Vatican. I suspect that is also the situation today, but with different actors.

I remember the IRA attacks the difference between the two is that the republican attacks were frequently preceded by warnings giving time to clear the area, their purpose was terror and disruption Isis gives no warning their purpose is to kill and kill in the most cowardly way possible, they are a different kettle of fish altogether Imo.
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23-05-2017, 06:11 AM
RE: Manchester England
Cowards...cowards kill children.

This is horrifying.

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23-05-2017, 06:41 AM
RE: Manchester England
One of the victims was a little girl she was only 8 years old Sadcryface
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