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04-08-2014, 10:37 PM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(04-08-2014 09:09 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 09:06 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Define, "re-educated".
Also, define specifically the criteria for this deportation and re-education if you will.
Just that they're Jewish-errr I mean "Moslem". Freudian slip, my bad.

Like I said; threatening the native culture.

Yet you support Israel? What about the Palestinian native culture?
Or, you're Canadian, what about the native Americans that lived in that region before the French and British showed up? Assuming you are not native Indian, are you too not "threatening native culture"?

And who decides which immigrants are considered "threatening" to the French culture? You? And what is considered "French culture" and who decides that?
What about those immigrants that migrated to France generations ago, are they still considered immigrants by your standards?
If there is a Muslim minority in France, is that than not part of the French culture?
And if not, why not? Because you find Muslim immigrants "icky"?
And if so, than what is the issue?

And how is what you are saying any different to what the Nazi's were saying about the Jews? Are you a Nazi? Obviously you're not a Nazi, but you must share extremely similar qualities you must admit gauging by what you're saying in this thread. Perhaps we should start calling you Fas Cism instead.
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04-08-2014, 11:58 PM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
Res - I posted the wikipedia link in your other thread. Muslims are a minority in France. Chances that they will take over are zero. Don't be tiresome - reposting stuff in a new thread doesn't make it true.

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05-08-2014, 02:32 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(04-08-2014 09:09 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 09:06 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Define, "re-educated".
Also, define specifically the criteria for this deportation and re-education if you will.
Just that they're Jewish-errr I mean "Moslem". Freudian slip, my bad.

Like I said; threatening the native culture.

Still waiting for a definition of that. Drinking Beverage

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05-08-2014, 09:04 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(05-08-2014 02:32 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 09:09 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  Like I said; threatening the native culture.

Still waiting for a definition of that. Drinking Beverage

It means "the parts of it I like", Chas.

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05-08-2014, 09:18 AM (This post was last modified: 05-08-2014 09:56 AM by Res Publica.)
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(04-08-2014 10:37 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 09:09 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  Like I said; threatening the native culture.

Yet you support Israel? What about the Palestinian native culture?
Or, you're Canadian, what about the native Americans that lived in that region before the French and British showed up? Assuming you are not native Indian, are you too not "threatening native culture"?

And who decides which immigrants are considered "threatening" to the French culture? You? And what is considered "French culture" and who decides that?
What about those immigrants that migrated to France generations ago, are they still considered immigrants by your standards?
If there is a Muslim minority in France, is that than not part of the French culture?
And if not, why not? Because you find Muslim immigrants "icky"?
And if so, than what is the issue?

And how is what you are saying any different to what the Nazi's were saying about the Jews? Are you a Nazi? Obviously you're not a Nazi, but you must share extremely similar qualities you must admit gauging by what you're saying in this thread. Perhaps we should start calling you Fas Cism instead.

Jews are the natives of Israel. They were enslaved by European colonialists, but they are still the true natives to Israel.

That is a good point you brought up about American-Indians. What needs to happen here is a gradual assimilation of all Canadians into that culture. The American-Indians have many great values that all people living in Canada should adopt; they had a Republican society, they valued gender equality and they accepted homosexuals and transexuals.
If the British had been just they would have agreed to fork over all their technology and assimilate in exchange for being allowed to live in America.

I would define nationality purely culturally. You could have a first generation immigrant who is completely assimilated, or a third generation immigrant who is not assimilated at all. It all depends on how well they are accepting the culture.

It is hard to define French culture because culture is always changing, and this is a very positive thing, but Moslems are far behind us culturally, so naturally they pose a threat if they do not assimilate. My biggest issue with Moslem fundamentalists is that they carry with them medieval values which will naturally collide with modern French values of liberty, equality and brotherhood. It is of the utmost importance that the French republican values come up on top.

When people challenge culture and push it forward this is a great thing, but Moslem fundamentalism threatens to haul culture backwards and this is what worries me.

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05-08-2014, 09:55 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 05:00 PM)kim Wrote:  Uhm... what's it to you, Res? Do you even live in France? Drinking Beverage
No, but France is a great country.
I'm with you on that; I have wanted to live in France for quite some time!

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  The French formulated modern republicanism, one might even say that France is the birthplace of liberty in the modern era.
Kant formulated the concept of modern republicanism in the 1780s, in reaction to the despotism of the Swiss who disallowed it's citizenry private freedoms. When under stress, it's usually a pretty good bet to borrow from the ancient Greeks and get creative.

Républicanisme in France is the French version of modern republicanism. It is a form of social contract, deduced from Rousseau's idea of a general will, wherein each citizen is engaged in a direct relationship with the state, removing the need for identity politics based on local, religious, or racial identification.

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  France is a great country.
T'is.

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  If France falls then all of Western civilization could be next.
Even the French might find this dramatic speculation to be somewhat jejune. Are you a teenager? I don't mean that in a bad way.

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  Also I have been to Quebec and it is really nice. I didn't see a single headscarf the whole time I was there. I almost cried back in the Spring when the liberals won that election. The rest of Canada is screwed, Quebec might still have a chance at saving themselves from the multicultural nightmare.

You lost me.
Quebec is not France - far from it. Quebec is a province of Canada. Though Quebec has a separate government headed by the Queen, as a Canadian province, Quebec is not itself a kingdom. It is a constitutional monarchy and Elizabeth II is the reigning monarch. Perhaps you are confused.

Just a side note in case your thought is that language links France and Quebec... the French spoken in Quebec is a very archaic French.

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05-08-2014, 10:02 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(05-08-2014 09:55 AM)kim Wrote:  
(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  No, but France is a great country.
I'm with you on that; I have wanted to live in France for quite some time!

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  The French formulated modern republicanism, one might even say that France is the birthplace of liberty in the modern era.
Kant formulated the concept of modern republicanism in the 1780s, in reaction to the despotism of the Swiss who disallowed it's citizenry private freedoms. When under stress, it's usually a pretty good bet to borrow from the ancient Greeks and get creative.

Républicanisme in France is the French version of modern republicanism. It is a form of social contract, deduced from Rousseau's idea of a general will, wherein each citizen is engaged in a direct relationship with the state, removing the need for identity politics based on local, religious, or racial identification.

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  France is a great country.
T'is.

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  If France falls then all of Western civilization could be next.
Even the French might find this dramatic speculation to be somewhat jejune. Are you a teenager? I don't mean that in a bad way.

(04-08-2014 05:06 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  Also I have been to Quebec and it is really nice. I didn't see a single headscarf the whole time I was there. I almost cried back in the Spring when the liberals won that election. The rest of Canada is screwed, Quebec might still have a chance at saving themselves from the multicultural nightmare.

You lost me.
Quebec is not France - far from it. Quebec is a province of Canada. Though Quebec has a separate government headed by the Queen, as a Canadian province, Quebec is not itself a kingdom. It is a constitutional monarchy and Elizabeth II is the reigning monarch. Perhaps you are confused.

Just a side note in case your thought is that language links France and Quebec... the French spoken in Quebec is a very archaic French.

Different shit is, different... probably something to get used to. Drinking Beverage

Quebec was founded by Frenchmen. They will be the first to tell you that they are French. And Quebec and France always seem to share a special connection. When Pauline Marois was elected she visited France and talked about how close their two countries were to each other.

I know that they are not the same, but Quebec is the closest you can get to France in North America.

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05-08-2014, 10:11 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
(05-08-2014 10:02 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  
(05-08-2014 09:55 AM)kim Wrote:  I'm with you on that; I have wanted to live in France for quite some time!

Kant formulated the concept of modern republicanism in the 1780s, in reaction to the despotism of the Swiss who disallowed it's citizenry private freedoms. When under stress, it's usually a pretty good bet to borrow from the ancient Greeks and get creative.

Républicanisme in France is the French version of modern republicanism. It is a form of social contract, deduced from Rousseau's idea of a general will, wherein each citizen is engaged in a direct relationship with the state, removing the need for identity politics based on local, religious, or racial identification.

T'is.

Even the French might find this dramatic speculation to be somewhat jejune. Are you a teenager? I don't mean that in a bad way.


You lost me.
Quebec is not France - far from it. Quebec is a province of Canada. Though Quebec has a separate government headed by the Queen, as a Canadian province, Quebec is not itself a kingdom. It is a constitutional monarchy and Elizabeth II is the reigning monarch. Perhaps you are confused.

Just a side note in case your thought is that language links France and Quebec... the French spoken in Quebec is a very archaic French.

Different shit is, different... probably something to get used to. Drinking Beverage

Quebec was founded by Frenchmen. They will be the first to tell you that they are French. And Quebec and France always seem to share a special connection. When Pauline Marois was elected she visited France and talked about how close their two countries were to each other.

I know that they are not the same, but Quebec is the closest you can get to France in North America.

Far from it, New Orleans is far more french, Quebec is it's own thing and has very little in common with France.

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05-08-2014, 11:05 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
Ha - yes - I guess the saying is: "Montreal is New York run by the Swiss."

Heart New Orleans ... it's like a little piece of France surrounded by American hillbillies.

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05-08-2014, 11:22 AM
RE: Marine Le Pen Most Popular Presidential Candidate in France
Quelles places en Quebec as-tu visité, RP?

Montreal? La ville de Quebec? Y'a beaucoup des hijabs la, je te promets...

Tout les gens que je sais en Quebec étaient heureux de voir les PLQs gagnent, parce qu'ils ne sont pas des sectaires intolérants.

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