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18-07-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: Mass Killings
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a truck is a good guy with a truck.

Don't let those gnomes and their illusions get you down. They're just gnomes and illusions.

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18-07-2016, 10:20 AM
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Or a tank.....

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18-07-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Mass Killings
(18-07-2016 10:20 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Or a tank.....

Or a mile-long strip of teflon.

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18-07-2016, 11:16 AM
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(18-07-2016 10:07 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  And it's also easy for a terrorist to find plenty of places that aren't fortress hardened that are still jammed packed with people.

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Do you want to spend the rest of your life standing in line - like an airport queue???? Are you willing to get x-rayed every time you go from one "secure area" to another?? Do you approve of random strip searches???

Just on the millions to one chance that you might get killed???


All the "It's real easy" solutions generally lead to solutions that aren't easy, workable, or cheap. They also invariably come with a huge cost to civil liberties.


I'll take my chances without, thanks...

You are arguing Reductio ad Absurdum.

All I was suggesting was sticking poles into the ground in jam packed places. You get concrete blocks already, to stop gypsies parking on your land, or small cars driving down pedestrian areas etc.

When they removed the bins because the IRA (funded by Americans) decided to use them to hide bombs to blow up innocent civilians, the authorities didn't remove bins all over the country, only in the prime targets.

It's the 90/10% rule here.
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18-07-2016, 11:45 AM
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Such "passive methods" are the result of passive thinking.....

Putting an obstacle in the way simply makes a terrorist pick a different route...

When you put metal detectors in an airport "to keep guns out" -- they attack outside the airport (as we've recently begun seeing).....

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I suspect the founder of Seal Team 6 has it right --

"Verily, thou art not paid for thy methods, but for thy results, by which meaneth thou shalt kill thine enemy by any means available before he killeth you" -- Richard Marcinko

Or -- sit and cower and hope terrorists are too stupid to figure out locked doors and blocked alleyways..................

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18-07-2016, 11:53 AM
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We should preemptively nuke any area that might be subject to a terrorist attack. That'll learn 'em!
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18-07-2016, 12:37 PM
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(18-07-2016 10:20 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Or a tank.....

Or a nuclear bomb. Dodgy

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Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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18-07-2016, 01:42 PM
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(18-07-2016 11:45 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Such "passive methods" are the result of passive thinking.....

Putting an obstacle in the way simply makes a terrorist pick a different route...

When you put metal detectors in an airport "to keep guns out" -- they attack outside the airport (as we've recently begun seeing).....

.

I suspect the founder of Seal Team 6 has it right --

"Verily, thou art not paid for thy methods, but for thy results, by which meaneth thou shalt kill thine enemy by any means available before he killeth you" -- Richard Marcinko

Or -- sit and cower and hope terrorists are too stupid to figure out locked doors and blocked alleyways..................


But you're displaying typical gun nut mentality. We can't have a 100% perfect solution so let's not try. A killer will always kill so let's not bother stopping them from obtaining the most efficient means to kill. Forgetting of course that if it's a line of 49 people they mow down with an assault rifle or a line of 9 they kill with a handgun, or a line of 2 they kill with a kitchen knife, that the less than 100% perfect solution has still saved lives.

The terrorist that tries to mow down people shopping on a Saturday afternoon in some quiet town will kill far fewer people than if they do it during some national celebration that draws tourists from all around the world.

But one thing that you are not taking into account, the terrorist will still try to get the top prize. They're doing it to cause terror and to grab headlines. That means that they still need to try and make the most spectacular attack they can. Most gun attacks that happen in America don't even make the news outside of the local region.

What are you suggesting? To roll over and let them have their way because a 100% perfect solution is not possible?
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18-07-2016, 02:11 PM
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(18-07-2016 01:42 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(18-07-2016 11:45 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Such "passive methods" are the result of passive thinking.....

Putting an obstacle in the way simply makes a terrorist pick a different route...

When you put metal detectors in an airport "to keep guns out" -- they attack outside the airport (as we've recently begun seeing).....

.

I suspect the founder of Seal Team 6 has it right --

"Verily, thou art not paid for thy methods, but for thy results, by which meaneth thou shalt kill thine enemy by any means available before he killeth you" -- Richard Marcinko

Or -- sit and cower and hope terrorists are too stupid to figure out locked doors and blocked alleyways..................


But you're displaying typical gun nut mentality. We can't have a 100% perfect solution so let's not try. A killer will always kill so let's not bother stopping them from obtaining the most efficient means to kill. Forgetting of course that if it's a line of 49 people they mow down with an assault rifle or a line of 9 they kill with a handgun, or a line of 2 they kill with a kitchen knife, that the less than 100% perfect solution has still saved lives.

The terrorist that tries to mow down people shopping on a Saturday afternoon in some quiet town will kill far fewer people than if they do it during some national celebration that draws tourists from all around the world.

But one thing that you are not taking into account, the terrorist will still try to get the top prize. They're doing it to cause terror and to grab headlines. That means that they still need to try and make the most spectacular attack they can. Most gun attacks that happen in America don't even make the news outside of the local region.

What are you suggesting? To roll over and let them have their way because a 100% perfect solution is not possible?

I view YOUR "solution" akin to "rolling over"...

Do you really think that putting up a concrete flower pot is really a serious impediment to a whackadoodle who is willing to kill himself to kill a few of us????

Really??? You think some Jihadi John is going to stand there with his dick in his hand totally flummoxed because he can't get around conveniently?????


The methods you propose -- just like the bullshit the TSA endorses -- has one purpose..... To make middle aged white people feel safe....................


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18-07-2016, 03:28 PM
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(18-07-2016 02:11 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  I view YOUR "solution" akin to "rolling over"...

Do you really think that putting up a concrete flower pot is really a serious impediment to a whackadoodle who is willing to kill himself to kill a few of us????

Really??? You think some Jihadi John is going to stand there with his dick in his hand totally flummoxed because he can't get around conveniently?????


The methods you propose -- just like the bullshit the TSA endorses -- has one purpose..... To make middle aged white people feel safe....................

I don't see you saying what we should do. At least I'm the one suggesting ways of making the terrorist's lives harder. What are you suggesting?

All you are doing is dismissing every suggestion because it's not perfect. Hardly constructive.
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