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11-03-2014, 03:32 PM
Materialists shoot themselves in the foot!
Irrationality: Everyone knows people who are crazy, but most of us pride ourselves in our ability to think clearly, employing reason and evidence. Where did that ability to come from? PhysOrg says, “Natural selection can favor irrational behavior.”

But if that is true, nobody could know rationality from irrationality without appealing to standards outside of evolution. And if evolution (a mindless, irrational process) actually favors irrationality, then everybody is crazy – including the scientist who argues that natural selection can favor irrational behavior.

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11-03-2014, 03:36 PM
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Nice copy/paste.

Because you sourced from a creationist site,


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11-03-2014, 04:56 PM
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(11-03-2014 03:32 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  Irrationality: Everyone knows people who are crazy, but most of us pride ourselves in our ability to think clearly, employing reason and evidence. Where did that ability to come from? PhysOrg says, “Natural selection can favor irrational behavior.”

But if that is true, nobody could know rationality from irrationality without appealing to standards outside of evolution. And if evolution (a mindless, irrational process) actually favors irrationality, then everybody is crazy – including the scientist who argues that natural selection can favor irrational behavior.

http://crev.info/2014/01/materialists-sh...-the-foot/

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Non-sequiturs, partial quotes, and blatant misstatement of evolution from she who admits to not understand evolution.

Just stop. You make a complete fool of yourself.

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11-03-2014, 05:37 PM
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(11-03-2014 03:32 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  Miss Meng is bemused!

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11-03-2014, 05:47 PM
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(11-03-2014 03:32 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  Irrationality: Everyone knows people who are crazy, but most of us pride ourselves in our ability to think clearly, employing reason and evidence. Where did that ability to come from? PhysOrg says, “Natural selection can favor irrational behavior.”

But if that is true, nobody could know rationality from irrationality without appealing to standards outside of evolution. And if evolution (a mindless, irrational process) actually favors irrationality, then everybody is crazy – including the scientist who argues that natural selection can favor irrational behavior.

http://crev.info/2014/01/materialists-sh...-the-foot/

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Miss Meng - I can reply to your post in detail, pull it apart and reveal the fallacies & mistakes. The question is - is it worth my time ? Do you seriously want me to show you the fallacies and errors ?
I can but dont want to spend ages writing a reply if you are just trolling or "hit & run" quoting.

Think about this. If I spend ages replying to you in depth, it might be of value to other readers - so there is benefit. If you want a debate then say so. Personally email me if you are not confident on public record blog's or reply point by point.

However if you are wasting my time this is your sin - because it is a form of stealing someone valuable time. My time, which is valuable. Yes my time is extremely valuable and purposeful as an atheist.

ALso - I used to teach anti-evolution, creationism and intelligent design in my religious days. I was a evangelical biblical teacher - so I feel I do have something valuable to say because I used to stand in your shoes BUT CHANGED MY MIND - to rationality and reason - the evidence based approach.

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11-03-2014, 05:53 PM
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LOL...Miss meng actually MISQUOTED.

The quote said “Natural selection can favor irrational behavior.”

Miss meng changed it to:
"And if evolution...actually favors irrationality..."


It is true irrational behaviors CAN sometimes favored via natural selection.

It is not true that "Evolution FAVORS irrationality"

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11-03-2014, 05:55 PM
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...anyway I am falling for the temptation to refute and debunk everything miss meng wrote.

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11-03-2014, 06:07 PM
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Miss meng got a reputation of minus 18 at one of the fastest rates I have ever seen. A miracle

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11-03-2014, 06:09 PM
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(11-03-2014 06:07 PM)Baruch Wrote:  Miss meng got a reputation of minus 18 at one of the fastest rates I have ever seen. A miracle

Evidence of God's existence!
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11-03-2014, 06:16 PM
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I have never shot myself in the foot.
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