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04-05-2015, 07:27 PM
RE: May 4,1970
(04-05-2015 12:09 AM)RogueWarrior Wrote:  Some of those students weren't making a sacrifice. They were in the wrong place, at the wrong time. Just going to class.

Perhaps we can find common ground by stipulating that their sacrifice wasn't intentional?
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04-05-2015, 07:29 PM
RE: May 4,1970
(03-05-2015 10:19 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  He should have gone to prison for war-crimes.

... or had the guts to commit seppuku.
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04-05-2015, 07:32 PM
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05-05-2015, 07:02 PM
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(03-05-2015 10:03 PM)Chas Wrote:  Forty-five years ago my older brother was serving in the U.S. Army in Viet Nam, my younger brother
had received the letter from Selective Service to report for a pre-draft physical, and my draft status was 1-A.

And then,





The response was enormous.

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The U.S. was divided and the tide was turning.

My two oldest brothers were listed as 1-A in 1969. Both of them got their draft notices within a week of each other. They got in a car and went to Canada, became Canadian citizens and still live there.

My mother was Canadian so becoming a citizen was fairly easy for them.

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05-05-2015, 09:53 PM
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And four months later I was born. Wow, you're friggin old Chas. Drinking Beverage

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05-05-2015, 10:25 PM
RE: May 4,1970
I was 8, and we lived in Beaufort, SC. Dad was a marine. His first tour in Viet Nam was 65-66, and he was about to ship out for his second. He retired shortly after he got back. My first crush, Sherri lived next door to us. Her dad was a Marine too. He died there in 72.

Little bit of trivia. Alabama football coach Nick Saban was on the commons at Kent State that day. It's where he saw his first dead human being.

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06-05-2015, 11:52 AM
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(05-05-2015 09:53 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  And four months later I was born. Wow, you're friggin old Chas. Drinking Beverage

You ain't no spring chicken. Drinking Beverage

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06-05-2015, 12:52 PM
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(06-05-2015 11:52 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(05-05-2015 09:53 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  And four months later I was born. Wow, you're friggin old Chas. Drinking Beverage

You ain't no spring chicken. Drinking Beverage

Indeed. Facepalm

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06-05-2015, 12:59 PM
RE: May 4,1970
(03-05-2015 10:19 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I'm fascinated with this period of US History. All those fat-ass generals, and politicians SO damn sure 50,000 US kids needed to die for their idiotic ideas. Then years later, McNamara has the unbelievable balls to say it was all a mistake. He should have gone to prison for war-crimes.

Edit : I was watching PBS's documentary about the last days of the war, and the evacuation of Saigon. It gets worse. Facepalm

And then, in 2003, we proved that we had learned exactly nothing

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07-05-2015, 01:53 AM
RE: May 4,1970
(06-05-2015 12:59 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  And then, in 2003, we proved that we had learned exactly nothing

Oh, they learned all right.

Remember that old Kinks song from the same time period? With the line going like "give the scum a gun and make the bugger fight..."

And they learned the art of embedded journalism instead of independent coverage.
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