May 4,1970
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07-05-2015, 09:39 PM
RE: May 4,1970
(07-05-2015 01:53 AM)abaris Wrote:  Remember that old Kinks song from the same time period? With the line going like "give the scum a gun and make the bugger fight..."





Great song off of an equally great album.

(30-03-2015 08:47 PM)Colourcraze Wrote:  IT'S THE HOLY GHOST oooOOOOOOOOOOooooooo
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08-05-2015, 06:43 AM
RE: May 4,1970
I arrived in Berkeley a year later.

It was a wild time. Hippies - the US kind was very different from the European kind, in Europe we were scruffy rebels, in the US it was commercialized with clothing lines and head shops and whatnot. Too funny, I was in a head shop just yesterday, now called smoke shop in anticipation of the pending legal status of weed here. It was almost identical to the shops from way back then, the only new thing being vaporizers. I thought I was time traveling.

We took to the streets back then, protesting the war, protesting discrimination against gays and women, calling for Nixon's impeachment.... we marched, we sang, we staged "sit-ins". We had the first gays participating, openly gay, in an "in your face" kind of way. San Francisco was pretty crazy compared to the rest of the world.

I am proud to have been part of this. We made noise, we drew attention, we caused lots of "conversation". We were despised by many, we stuck together and presented a united front. Society changed tons as we entered our thirties and beyond, we continued to influence local laws and attitudes and probably our last contribution is the legalization of weed. Now we are getting too old and are leaving the work force and losing influence.

I love seeing today's youth picking up some of the causes and adding atheism. Societal evolution is slow, it takes generations to make something right. But then, it is fast enough for us to see some of the fruit of our labor. I hope today's youth will see the predominance of atheism when they are older... nothing like knowing you contributed to necessary change in society. Doesn't matter if you ever get any credit, just seeing things unfold and change is a thrill.

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08-05-2015, 07:02 AM
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And here is something we thought we could influence - but it's way too ingrained in humanity. Maybe some day.... at least we have reduced the connected suffering somewhat through technology....





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08-05-2015, 10:03 AM
RE: May 4,1970
(08-05-2015 06:43 AM)Dom Wrote:  I arrived in Berkeley a year later.

It was a wild time. Hippies - the US kind was very different from the European kind, in Europe we were scruffy rebels, in the US it was commercialized with clothing lines and head shops and whatnot.

What?

You think it wasn't commercialised in Europe? My memory tells a different story, with Hippy shops at every corner, where you could buy the latest clothing and gimmicks. As a child these shops were my favorites with all their vibrant colors and stuff.
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01-07-2015, 12:10 PM
RE: May 4,1970
I was 12 and remember it well I love the shops the under ground books stores were I was introduce to the magazine The Freaks Brother I use to get stone and laugh my butt off. Then in 77 I was in the army station at Ft.Ord( Planet Ord we called it) even though i was under age i use to hang out at The International Cafe on International Blvd. BOY ! Berkeley was the place to be. Lots of good time
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01-07-2015, 01:57 PM
RE: May 4,1970
(08-05-2015 10:03 AM)abaris Wrote:  
(08-05-2015 06:43 AM)Dom Wrote:  I arrived in Berkeley a year later.

It was a wild time. Hippies - the US kind was very different from the European kind, in Europe we were scruffy rebels, in the US it was commercialized with clothing lines and head shops and whatnot.

What?

You think it wasn't commercialised in Europe? My memory tells a different story, with Hippy shops at every corner, where you could buy the latest clothing and gimmicks. As a child these shops were my favorites with all their vibrant colors and stuff.

Maybe I hung with the wrong hippies, hehe. We didn't live off our parents. Hence we were poor, we had no money so I don't suppose we ever went to "hippy shops". We were happy to have food. We traveled throughout Europe. I wore the same pair of jeans for years. If any money showed up, it went for food and weed. We had dropped out. We weren't in it for fashion and woo, we wanted social change. We created our own little society. We headed north for the summer and south for the winter. And there were a lot of us.

The "hippie commerce" in the states was mind boggling to me - Telegraph Ave in Berkely was one long series of Hippie stores, clothing, head shops, incense and scent stores and what have you. People pretty much wore "gypsy clothes".

Nonetheless, young people (and I don't call them hippies) in the greater San Francisco Bay were politically engaged and very noisy about it.

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