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14-03-2014, 07:44 PM
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(14-03-2014 07:42 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 07:26 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Why is pain from nerve damage so hard to manage? For over four years now I have been dealing with it particularly under my shoulder blades with it causing numbness and tingling in my arms and hands. Sometimes my hands just seem to spaz out and I drop things, usually with no warning. I must say it is better than it was, but damn! I also experienced several months where my breast bone felt like a toothache.

Regular pain meds helped me at least sleep though they really didn't ease the pain. Things like Lyrica were only effective with a high enough dose to make me sleep. I have tried massage, a TENS machine...everything I can think of. Of course doctors don't want me addicted so I haven't had pain meds in a long time and I just gave up on the Lyrica.

All this is from a bilateral mastectomy. Some days it seems like it will never end. Will it? Is there anything I can do that will help? I am really tired of chronic pain.

Poor you! You should experiment to see what works for you.

Try some oral magnesium powder every night (at least a teaspoonful.) Don't just take magnesium tablets, they're usually useless.

Try high dose omega 3's

Try GABA

Talk to your doctor about trying neurontin, also you can try mixing neurontin with lyrica.

You can also talk to your doctor about using a tricyclic antidepressants or an SNRI antidepressant. These drugs have been useful in treating chronic pain even though the patient is not clinically depressed.

Thanks, I will look into it. Actually it's Lexapro that keeps me from finding a bridge to leap from. That and simple stubbornness.

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14-03-2014, 07:44 PM (This post was last modified: 14-03-2014 08:08 PM by docskeptic.)
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Angele,
First off, I'm sorry to hear of your chronic pain. Have you been evaluated for Reflex Symoathetic Dystrophic Syndrome (RSDS) also called Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS)? It is felt to represent inflammatory damage to nerves following a noxious event such as injury or your surgery. Excessive sweating if the affected area might be a clue.

Have you tried duloxetine (Cymbalta)? A referral to a pain secialist for evaluation might be useful if not done already. Also, a nerve block or spinal stimulator could be considered if all else fails.

Hope that helps.

Doc
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14-03-2014, 07:51 PM
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(14-03-2014 07:44 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  Angele,
First off, I'm sorry to hear of your chronic pain. Have you been evaluated for Reflex Symoathetic Dystrophic Syndrome (RSDS) also called Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CROS)? It is felt to represent inflammatory damage to nerves following a noxious event such as injury or your surgery. Excessive sweating if the affected area might be a clue.

Have you tried duloxetine (Cymbalta)? A referral to a pin specialist for evaluation might be useful if not done already. Also, a nerve block or spinal stimulator could be considered if all else fails.

Hope that helps.

Doc

Lyrica helped more than Cymbalta though only marginally. I have done the pin thing, that's how I finally got everyone on board with it not being all in my head. I was at the point where if I heard, "You should be feeling better by now" one more time, I was not going to be responsible for my actions.

I will be doing some researching...looks like magnesium would be a good thing for me anyway since I have had some bone weakening.

I am just tired of being sore and tired. Glad to be beating the cancer but worn out.

Thanks Mark and Doc.

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14-03-2014, 08:02 PM
RE: Medical advice
(14-03-2014 07:51 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 07:44 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  Angele,
First off, I'm sorry to hear of your chronic pain. Have you been evaluated for Reflex Symoathetic Dystrophic Syndrome (RSDS) also called Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CROS)? It is felt to represent inflammatory damage to nerves following a noxious event such as injury or your surgery. Excessive sweating if the affected area might be a clue.

Have you tried duloxetine (Cymbalta)? A referral to a pin specialist for evaluation might be useful if not done already. Also, a nerve block or spinal stimulator could be considered if all else fails.

Hope that helps.

Doc

Lyrica helped more than Cymbalta though only marginally. I have done the pin thing, that's how I finally got everyone on board with it not being all in my head. I was at the point where if I heard, "You should be feeling better by now" one more time, I was not going to be responsible for my actions.

I will be doing some researching...looks like magnesium would be a good thing for me anyway since I have had some bone weakening.

I am just tired of being sore and tired. Glad to be beating the cancer but worn out.

Thanks Mark and Doc.

"since I have had some bone weakening."

It's imperative in my opinion that you get your vitamin D levels checked if that hasn't been done already. Vitamin D efficiency is extremely common, and do not accept the so-called normal range of 50 to 200. Your vitamin D level should be at least 100. It is particularly important in your case as vitamin D deficiency is probably a risk factor for cancer and is definitely a proven risk factor for osteoporosis.

Also, you're absolutely right that magnesium is very important for bone strength...a fact that not many doctors emphasise. Magnesium deficiency is extremely common in Western society. In fact, most of us are magnesium deficient for many reasons.
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14-03-2014, 08:09 PM
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I will get on Vitamin D, calcium, and magnesium this weekend, I have been a bit slack with taking vitamins and supplements though I know I need them. I have an oncology appt. in a couple months, maybe I can get those levels up to where they should be. I am sure I can get my doctor to order the additional tests. I will be having a DEXA scan that day too.

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14-03-2014, 08:11 PM (This post was last modified: 14-03-2014 08:15 PM by GirlyMan.)
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So I ,take a shitload of supplements, not vitamins and minerals other than D3, but resveratrol, curcumin, niacinamide, NAC, chanca piedra, silymarin and hydergine and piracetam along with metformin, simvastatin and lisinopril for the prediabetes and seroquel for sleep. Am I wasting my money? I'm liking the hydergine and piracetam mixed with some choline from lecitihin capsules and the liver really likes the NAC.

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14-03-2014, 08:13 PM
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Funny - Mark and Doc...helping me out...my brother's name is Mark and my dad was known as Doc.

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14-03-2014, 09:09 PM
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(14-03-2014 08:11 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  So I ,take a shitload of supplements, not vitamins and minerals other than D3, but resveratrol, curcumin, niacinamide, NAC, chanca piedra, silymarin and hydergine and piracetam along with metformin, simvastatin and lisinopril for the prediabetes and seroquel for sleep. Am I wasting my money? I'm liking the hydergine and piracetam mixed with some choline from lecitihin capsules and the liver really likes the NAC.

" along with metformin, simvastatin and lisinopril for the prediabetes and seroquel for sleep."

These are all well accepted by the medical community as effective.

D3 is very important if you're not getting enough sun. Surprisingly, people who take D3 are often still deficient. Your blood level should be at least 100. Vitamin D usually comes (at least in Australia) in capsules of 1000 IU which is actually a fairly small dose.

"resveratrol, curcumin, niacinamide, NAC, chanca piedra, silymarin and hydergine"

Controversial. I'm not sure. A lot of good reputable companies do sell this stuff, so I imagine there are some health benefits.

You are prediabetic, and you obviously are concerned about your liver. People with diabetes and who enjoy a little too much alcohol are prone to magnesium and zinc deficiency. I would strongly suggest that you take both of these. note that it typically takes a couple of months of high dose supplementation to replenish your body's zinc stores, particularly in diabetics and people who enjoy their booze. Mag powder and zinc solution are cheap and the health benefits are undoubted in my opinion. You should also be taking omega threes (which should be bought out of the fridge, and should be stored in a fridge)
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14-03-2014, 09:11 PM
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(14-03-2014 12:15 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 11:36 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Thanks for starting this thread. I have a huge problem with chiropractors. I prefer to call them Chiroquackters. At any rate, wouldn't it be just as well to have a good massage instead? My understanding it that the cracking one hears at the chiropractors is the same as cracking ones knuckles. It does nothing.

What's your opinion of acupuncture?

dancefortwo,

I concur. The snapping or cracking sounds that we hear when joints are cracked are caused by sudden fluid shifts or ligament shifting or stretching. However, the sound has a profound psychological effect suggesting that "something" just happened and is used to that effect by those who manipulate the spine or joints.

Oh boy, acupuncture. I suppose I should start by saying that acupuncture is based on the traditional Chinese theory that we have energy lines or meridians on our body through which Qi (energy) flows. Disruption of these lines are what cause illness. Acupuncture works by "unblocking" the meridians and restoring normal Qi flow.

Once again, there is no scientific rationale for such a belief. There is no evidence for the so-called Qi or energy meridians. No study has shown a benefit from acupuncture that cannot be attributed to placebo. Sham acupuncture (done without penetrating the skin but which "feels" like actual acupuncture) achieves results as good as acupuncture and placebo.

Acupuncture is probably safe, but in unhygienic conditions could be responsible for transmission of blood-borne illnesses.

Doc

The evidence from studies comparing sham acupuncture with real show that it does nothing other than have a placebo effect.

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14-03-2014, 09:21 PM
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(14-03-2014 10:13 AM)Colourcraze Wrote:  Does this
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Actually do anything?

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