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14-03-2014, 09:24 PM
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(14-03-2014 12:15 PM)docskeptic Wrote:  I concur. The snapping or cracking sounds that we hear when joints are cracked are caused by sudden fluid shifts or ligament shifting or stretching. However, the sound has a profound psychological effect suggesting that "something" just happened and is used to that effect by those who manipulate the spine or joints.

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I do find a measure of relief from discomfort when I crack my knuckles, and get my back cracked. If I've got a kink in my back (usually the pair of verts dead between my shoulder blades that feel like they are misaligned give me the most trouble), that does seem to help.

But this whole thing of back-cracking being a magical cure-all....Laughat

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14-03-2014, 09:42 PM
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(14-03-2014 09:09 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Your blood level should be at least 100.

Seems too high unless we talking different units. Vitamin D follows a classical J-curve or U-curve for morbidity in the studies I've seen. Classic Goldilocks supplement.

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14-03-2014, 09:49 PM
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(14-03-2014 09:09 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Controversial. I'm not sure.

Emergency rooms use NAC as an antidote to acetaminophen poisoning of the liver, how controversial can it be that it is hepatoprotective?

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14-03-2014, 09:59 PM
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(14-03-2014 09:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 09:09 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Your blood level should be at least 100.

Seems too high unless we talking different units. Vitamin D follows a classical J-curve or U-curve for morbidity in the studies I've seen. Classic Goldilocks supplement.

we measure in nmol/l in Australia.

Here is a reasonable Australian government summary of vitamin D, although I think it is rather conservative in that they don't treat deficiency aggressively enough and their definition of deficiency is not high enough.

http://www.nps.org.au/publications/healt...1/vitamind
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14-03-2014, 10:00 PM
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(14-03-2014 09:49 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 09:09 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Controversial. I'm not sure.

Emergency rooms use NAC as an antidote to acetaminophen poisoning of the liver, how controversial can it be that it is hepatoprotective?

Good point!
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14-03-2014, 10:06 PM (This post was last modified: 15-03-2014 06:21 AM by Mark Fulton.)
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(14-03-2014 09:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 09:09 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Your blood level should be at least 100.

Seems too high unless we talking different units. Vitamin D follows a classical J-curve or U-curve for morbidity in the studies I've seen. Classic Goldilocks supplement.

I usually tell people with a level of 70 to 100 to try to get a little more sun without getting sun burnt.

I tell anyone with a level of less than 70 the above too, but to also supplement with oral vitamin D. It is cheap and otherwise harmless. 1000 international units (the usual dose in Australian capsules) daily is said to raise your level by 25 after a month of supplementation, that is of course if you're absorbing the stuff.
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14-03-2014, 10:09 PM
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(14-03-2014 09:59 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 09:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Seems too high unless we talking different units. Vitamin D follows a classical J-curve or U-curve for morbidity in the studies I've seen. Classic Goldilocks supplement.

we measure in nmol/l in Australia.

That's 40 ng/ml in US units. That's the sweet spot in all the studies I've seen. Girly has to supplement 20,000 IU's/day just to maintain that level.

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14-03-2014, 10:13 PM (This post was last modified: 14-03-2014 10:21 PM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: Medical advice
(14-03-2014 09:42 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 09:09 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  Your blood level should be at least 100.

Seems too high unless we talking different units. Vitamin D follows a classical J-curve or U-curve for morbidity in the studies I've seen. Classic Goldilocks supplement.

Interesting. Check out this. And yes, we're obviously talking different units.

http://www.worldhealth.net/news/too-much...ar-morbid/

"422,000 people aged 45-years or older, who underwent vitamin D blood assays. The results showed, for the first time, that the safe range of vitamin D levels with respect to coronary morbidity and mortality lies between 20 to 36 ng/mL. Vitamin D levels both below and above this range were associated with a significant increase in mortality and morbidity. More than 60% of participants were found to have insufficient blood levels of vitamin D, and half of these participants had severely low vitamin D levels"
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14-03-2014, 10:16 PM
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(14-03-2014 10:09 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 09:59 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  we measure in nmol/l in Australia.

That's 40 ng/ml in US units. That's the sweet spot in all the studies I've seen. Girly has to supplement 20,000 IU's/day just to maintain that level.

OK.

Wow you sure need to take a lot of vitamin D!

It sounds like you have a problem absorbing the stuff.

Do you get much sun?
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14-03-2014, 10:29 PM (This post was last modified: 14-03-2014 10:34 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Medical advice
(14-03-2014 10:16 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 10:09 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  That's 40 ng/ml in US units. That's the sweet spot in all the studies I've seen. Girly has to supplement 20,000 IU's/day just to maintain that level.

OK.

Wow you sure need to take a lot of vitamin D!

It sounds like you have a problem absorbing the stuff.

Do you get much sun?

I get none. I am a programmer. Tongue

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