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22-07-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: Megachurches
(21-07-2017 07:18 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  A few people have mentioned Osteen. His church is somewhat in my neck of the woods; he took over what used to be called "The Summit" which is where the Houston Rockets used to play basketball. A friend once told me that to be a member of his church one had to turn over a banking account number for automatic withdrawals. May not be true but sounds true in spirit.
Normally even this is untrue you can normally find someone claiming it's true online or an article on Snopes.com or something and I'm not turning anything up. I have heard a lot of things critical of Osteen but this isn't one of them.
(21-07-2017 07:18 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  As far as his wealth, that's practically porn for his supporters. YOU TOO can be blessed by the holy whatever etc etc!!!
Yes, the so-called "prosperity gospel", or at least a low-grade form of it. The other distinctive with Osteen is that he greatly de-emphasizes teachings about hell, sin, guilt, etc. He focuses on forgiveness, acceptance and the like. Much to the consternation of some other evangelicals, who sometimes feel he'll take anyone without having any standards about their conduct. He is "soft" on homosexuality according to those critics; while he acknowledges that it's a sin, he doesn't want to drive people away with real or perceived "hate", preferring to "meet people where they are on their journey". (Presumably, he wants homosexuals to join his church so they can be he can pray the gay away, I don't know).

All of this kum-by-yah usually starts out good-intentioned -- ask god for big things, turn no one away, etc -- but it ends up somehow with Osteen in a giant mansion.
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22-07-2017, 08:01 PM
RE: Megachurches
(22-07-2017 07:02 PM)mordant Wrote:  
(21-07-2017 07:18 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  A few people have mentioned Osteen. His church is somewhat in my neck of the woods; he took over what used to be called "The Summit" which is where the Houston Rockets used to play basketball. A friend once told me that to be a member of his church one had to turn over a banking account number for automatic withdrawals. May not be true but sounds true in spirit.
Normally even this is untrue you can normally find someone claiming it's true online or an article on Snopes.com or something and I'm not turning anything up. I have heard a lot of things critical of Osteen but this isn't one of them.

I'm familiar with Snopes and didn't think to check there; thanks for checking it out. It's the kind of thing that's so unseemly I hope it's not true and as it might not be I won't repeat it again.
(22-07-2017 07:02 PM)mordant Wrote:  
(21-07-2017 07:18 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote:  As far as his wealth, that's practically porn for his supporters. YOU TOO can be blessed by the holy whatever etc etc!!!
Yes, the so-called "prosperity gospel", or at least a low-grade form of it. The other distinctive with Osteen is that he greatly de-emphasizes teachings about hell, sin, guilt, etc. He focuses on forgiveness, acceptance and the like. Much to the consternation of some other evangelicals, who sometimes feel he'll take anyone without having any standards about their conduct. He is "soft" on homosexuality according to those critics; while he acknowledges that it's a sin, he doesn't want to drive people away with real or perceived "hate", preferring to "meet people where they are on their journey". (Presumably, he wants homosexuals to join his church so they can be he can pray the gay away, I don't know).

All of this kum-by-yah usually starts out good-intentioned -- ask god for big things, turn no one away, etc -- but it ends up somehow with Osteen in a giant mansion.
Totally agree and have noticed that myself. He has hit on the right formula. Non-judgemental, we're all children of God, it's all good, etc etc. I know he's written several money-cranking books I doubt any of them have the word "Hell" in them.

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23-07-2017, 03:21 AM
RE: Megachurches
Those guys are pikers....

Anybody remember Shree Rajneesh??? That whacky yogi motherfucker in Oregon who drove around in his fleet of 93 Rolls Royces???. The fuck looked like a homeless dude riding around in back.

I met one of his whackadoodle followers in San Francisco in 1983. I bought this guy's bike - 1971 triumph, running - for $200. He was going to Oregon to "give the holy father his worldly possessions".....

That would have probably put a down payment on an oil change in his holinesses Rolls....

Stupid deluded sot

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The difference between prayer and masturbation - is when a guy is through masturbating - he has something to show for his efforts.
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