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07-04-2014, 12:06 PM (This post was last modified: 07-04-2014 12:12 PM by QUELSQUELS.)
Merciless God
Im new here so I have no idea where to post this, It's not really a personal issue and ...hmm maby it fits under theism? Oops regardless i just wanted to share.

Sooooo a few weeks ago I was in visiting my parents who live close to a fairly busy intersection and as I was playing with their cat, there was a deadly car crash not even ten feet from where I stood.
A teenage boy blew threw a stop light and smashed into a teal corvette which happened to be carrying a middle aged mom and her two teenage children. The teenager's pickup T-bonned the woman's corvett, killing her instantly and severely injuring her two children. The corvette's top was peeled back sardine style and the son was standing straight up where his seat should have been with this look of horror on his face as he stared at what was left his mother.
It just so happened that the woman who died had just left her church which is located directly across the street. A nearby driver- a man that must have attened the same service -saw the accident and ran over and held the boy in a loving embrace for some time.
I can't stop replaying the scene in my mind and thinking about those poor kids. That boys face. Ugggg. They clearly JUST came from their Christian church service and most likely believe in God. How could someone worship a God that brutally kills their mother in front of them immediately after leaving his house of worship? I don't understand religion.
Death is rough on an athiest but if you're under the impression that a big invisible man has your back, isn't it that much tougher to feel rejection on top of loss? Or maby they recategorize their mother's death as her joining the euphoric heaven club?
I just hope those kids are going to be ok.
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07-04-2014, 12:13 PM
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(07-04-2014 12:06 PM)QUELSQUELS Wrote:  Im new here so I have no idea where to post this, It's not really a personal issue and ...hmm maby it fits under theism? Oops regardless i just wanted to share.

Sooooo a few weeks ago I was in visiting my parents who live close to a fairly busy intersection and as I was playing with their cat, there was a deadly car crash not even ten feet from where I stood.
A teenage boy blew threw a stop light and smashed into a teal corvette which happened to be carrying a middle aged mom and her two teenage children. The teenager's pickup T-bonned the woman's corvett, killing her instantly and severely injuring her two children. The corvette's top was peeled back sardine style and the son was standing straight up where his seat should have been with this look of horror on his face as he stared at what was left his mother.
It just so happened that the woman who died had just left her church which is located directly across the street. A nearby driver- a man that must have attened the same service -saw the accident and ran over and held the boy in a loving embrace for some time.
I can't stop replaying the scene in my mind and thinking about those poor kids. That boys face. Ugggg. They clearly JUST came from their Christian church service and most likely believe in God. How could someone worship a God that brutally kills their mother in front of them immediately after leaving his house of worship? I don't understand religion.
Death is rough on an athiest but if you're under the impression that a big invisible man has your back, isn't it that much tougher to feel rejection on top of loss? Or maby they recategorize their mother's death as her joining the euphoric heaven club?
I just hope those kids are going to be ok.

First, sorry you had to see that. I hope you won't get any nightmares from this. Secondly, I'm pretty confident that these kids are being told right now that "Gawd works in mysterious ways" or "Jebus needed your mom in heaven". That's how it usually works.

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07-04-2014, 12:58 PM
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Aww thankxxx Smile Strangely enough, It wasn't even the accident that I found horrifying, (because my job sort of desensitizes us) just those kids reactions. locked in.


It sucks that people confuse children like that. But then again it would be better to hear that your mom is in a "nice place" rather than buried in six feet of dirt.
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07-04-2014, 10:34 PM
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(07-04-2014 12:58 PM)QUELSQUELS Wrote:  Aww thankxxx Smile Strangely enough, It wasn't even the accident that I found horrifying, (because my job sort of desensitizes us) just those kids reactions. locked in.


It sucks that people confuse children like that. But then again it would be better to hear that your mom is in a "nice place" rather than buried in six feet of dirt.

I don't know if it would be a bad thing for kids to realize mortality--and that there isn't a magical place to go. Tough lesson, but I think people need to have the mindset that this is the only life you get, so you have to make the best of it.
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08-04-2014, 09:32 AM (This post was last modified: 08-04-2014 10:52 AM by Raptor Jesus.)
RE: Merciless God
(07-04-2014 10:34 PM)jaguar3030 Wrote:  
(07-04-2014 12:58 PM)QUELSQUELS Wrote:  Aww thankxxx Smile Strangely enough, It wasn't even the accident that I found horrifying, (because my job sort of desensitizes us) just those kids reactions. locked in.


It sucks that people confuse children like that. But then again it would be better to hear that your mom is in a "nice place" rather than buried in six feet of dirt.

I don't know if it would be a bad thing for kids to realize mortality--and that there isn't a magical place to go. Tough lesson, but I think people need to have the mindset that this is the only life you get, so you have to make the best of it.

Man, that would be horrific to have to see!

But to your point, I myself have a friend who is extremely religious. She had been married for 13 years, and could never get pregnant, even though she was relying on “God” to “give her a child”, but “he” never did. Eventually she relied on “God” to help the in vitro fertilization specialist to get her pregnant. I say it that way, because as soon as she got pregnant she thanked “God” for her gift, but said nothing about the good doctors who helped her. And when she was running low in her IVF meds which were expensive and she had a hard time affording, she thanked “God” again when a friend, who no longer need her supply, gave what she had left to her. It was “God” who made those available to her, not her friend, per se.

Anyway, after 13 years of struggling to get pregnant, just a few months prior to the birth of their child, her husband developed an inoperable brain tumor. She praised “God” that he allowed her husband to live long enough to witness the birth of his child, and have a couple months with her.

But then there were complications with the child from birth. The baby girl was born with a detached esophagus. I don’t recall the exact details, but it was along the lines of this. The baby was air lifted to another hospital in Los Angeles, where she underwent multiple surgeries, and still does to this day, and spent her first weeks in hospital care. She again thanked “God” that her baby survived, and that it was truly a sign of “God’s” grace. She failed to mention the work of the good doctors to save her child’s life.

Being that her husband was hospital ridden himself, he did not have a chance to see his child for some time, until she was released from the hospital. He only lived about 2 ½ months after the birth of his child, and only got to actually she her at the very end of his life. She praised “God” for being so merciful as to allow him to hang on just long enough to meet his daughter. More evidence of a loving “God” caring enough to allow him to hang on long enough for the father and his daughter to met. Even though, the combination of the tumor’s pressure on his brain, and the medications changed he’s personality dramatically, physically in the brain changed how his brain functioned, and was not much the same person he was before, nor did he understand what was happing as he did when he was well. She still gave praise and glory to “God” for allowing this moment before he passed.

Then he died, leaving his wife of 13 years alone with their sickly baby in poor health, but she’s never clingged more to “God” than she does to this day.

It’s like the father who beats you, and you just blame yourself for you punishment, and do everything you can to prove to him you are worthy of his love. The more abusive he is, the more you desire his “love”. There is something mentally wrong with the thought process of these people.

She’s even blamed herself for the death of her husband, for not praying correctly. She said that when things progressed with her husband, she stopped praying for him to get better, but assumed that “God” was going to take him, and asked, “If you can’t at least keep him here, please at least take care of him, ease his pain, and take him to met you when he passes”. In retrospect, she was concerned that she prayed wrong because she did not have enough faith in her prayer. That, as she puts it, she thought “God” was too impotent to save her husband. Perhaps if she had more faith in “God” her husband would still be with her to this day.

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08-04-2014, 10:45 AM
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The amount of people who lose their religion or blame god for a tragedy is so low you have to reread/rewind the quote a few times just to be sure you didn't imagine it.

It is a tempting cop-out to say mom is in heaven now, rather then tell the kids she is gone forever.

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