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19-02-2015, 08:26 PM
Message in the sand
Quote:If you're walking along the sandy seashore devoid of all people and you come across this message carved into the sand that reads: "John loves Mary", would you doubt at all that that that message was not the product of "natural" processes?

Ergo, God!Facepalm

I'm certain that someone, somewhere has debunked this. Does anyone know of a link?

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19-02-2015, 08:41 PM
RE: Message in the sand
I would want to know when this scenario actually happened outside of someone's imagination.
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19-02-2015, 08:56 PM
RE: Message in the sand
Quote:If you're walking along the sandy seashore devoid of all people and you come across this message carved into the sand that reads: "John loves Mary", would you doubt at all that that that message was not the product of "natural" processes?

If I'm walking along a sandy seashore it's kinda by definition not devoid of all people.

Who comes up with this bollocks?

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19-02-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: Message in the sand
(19-02-2015 08:26 PM)f stop Wrote:  
Quote:If you're walking along the sandy seashore devoid of all people and you come across this message carved into the sand that reads: "John loves Mary", would you doubt at all that that that message was not the product of "natural" processes?

Ergo, God!Facepalm

I'm certain that someone, somewhere has debunked this. Does anyone know of a link?

So where did god write in the sand?

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19-02-2015, 09:33 PM
RE: Message in the sand
If I had reason to believe that John didn't exist, then I'd be inclined to believe Mary wrote it in an attempt to deceive me.

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19-02-2015, 10:00 PM
RE: Message in the sand
How many sandy shores did you walk along and how long did you have to walk before discovering that pattern? Also, were the sand patterns capable of spawning new sand patterns via mitosis?

If we came from dust, then why is there still dust?
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19-02-2015, 10:11 PM
RE: Message in the sand
(19-02-2015 08:26 PM)f stop Wrote:  
Quote:If you're walking along the sandy seashore devoid of all people and you come across this message carved into the sand that reads: "John loves Mary", would you doubt at all that that that message was not the product of "natural" processes?

Ergo, God!Facepalm

I'm certain that someone, somewhere has debunked this. Does anyone know of a link?

What if a guy named John did it as a romantic gesture for his wife named Mary?

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19-02-2015, 10:14 PM
RE: Message in the sand
(19-02-2015 08:56 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
Quote:If you're walking along the sandy seashore devoid of all people and you come across this message carved into the sand that reads: "John loves Mary", would you doubt at all that that that message was not the product of "natural" processes?
Who comes up with this bollocks?
I don't know who came up with it but I've heard it before. Quite a few times. I really don't want to take the time to address it but I don't want to let it stand either. It's an argument from design, a variation of the junk yard 747 which Dawkins debunks in The God Delusion. I'm surprised I can't find it debunked anywhere.

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19-02-2015, 10:54 PM
RE: Message in the sand
We talking, like, it actually being written there, or the ridiculous "If you're told beforehand what it supposedly says, lower your standards a lot, and squint both eyes, it kind of sort of says this" thing like with all the appearances of Jesus on toast?

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20-02-2015, 12:31 AM
RE: Message in the sand
I think it's a variation of the Watchmaker argument, which Dawkins handles quite well in his book, The Blind Watchmaker.

Here is a link to the Watchmaker analogy, from which I think you can extrapolate a refutation of the name in the sand crap.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmaker_analogy

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