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26-07-2017, 07:58 AM
RE: Microchips might be coming back
(26-07-2017 05:43 AM)Leo Wrote:  Not microchipping for me. Today is voluntary but the day it becomes mandatory , were are officially slaves of the government. I don't mind chips in payment cards , electronics devices etc but inside my body ? NO FREAKING WAY!
People said the same thing about Social Security numbers.
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26-07-2017, 08:17 AM (This post was last modified: 26-07-2017 08:22 AM by Leo.)
RE: Microchips might be coming back
(26-07-2017 07:58 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 05:43 AM)Leo Wrote:  Not microchipping for me. Today is voluntary but the day it becomes mandatory , were are officially slaves of the government. I don't mind chips in payment cards , electronics devices etc but inside my body ? NO FREAKING WAY!
People said the same thing about Social Security numbers.

Social security numbers isn't the same thing as having a chip inside your hand. Putting a chip inside your hand is giving the government much over power over you . If you want to be chipped , go ahead .

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26-07-2017, 08:22 AM
RE: Microchips might be coming back
(26-07-2017 08:17 AM)Leo Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 07:58 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  People said the same thing about Social Security numbers.

Social security numbers isn't the same thing as having a chip inside your hand. Putting a chip inside your hand is giving the government much over power over you . If you want to be chipped , go ahead .

How is being chipped giving the government much over power over you?
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26-07-2017, 09:29 AM
RE: Microchips might be coming back
(26-07-2017 08:22 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 08:17 AM)Leo Wrote:  Social security numbers isn't the same thing as having a chip inside your hand. Putting a chip inside your hand is giving the government much over power over you . If you want to be chipped , go ahead .
How is being chipped giving the government much power over you?
It is highly symbolic. Technically the physical location of an RFID chip -- on a card, keychain, or in your body -- doesn't change its fundamental nature. However, the lack of separation from your physical sense of self, the lack of safety studies when we already question the degree to which we are marinaded in EM fields day in and out as it is (a situation that didn't exist 100 years ago throughout human history) and the fact that you don't have the option for anonymity like you do by leaving something out of your wallet, all combine to make it a bridge too far IMO. And it's not just that some people might want to defraud the government or their employer or whatever, it is because any active tech has the ability to be misused and misappropriated. RFID tech has been invisibly hijacked by thieves in the vicinity, and can be used by an employer to track your exact whereabouts, potentially jumping to conclusions about how much time you spend on the throne or in the break room that assume nefarious intent or lack of diligence.

Everything's a tradeoff; I allow access to personal data all the time in exchange for convenience. But at least it's under my control and direction.

To me these kinds of questions are very similar to why virtual reality or 3D TV haven't caught on and why voice-actuated devices are controversial. They are all great ideas in theory and on the surface but raise huge practical issues in practice. For example, while VR is great, most people don't want to wear a dorky breadbox on their face for any length of time. It's uncomfortable. Until it's far less invasive (think: Star Trek holodeck) as well as immersive, it's just not going to catch on. 3D TV sounds great but significant percentage of users get vertigo from it. Voice actuated devices raise the specter that everything you say is, at some level, hackable in the cloud.

Same thing with in-body chips, they might provide marginal convenience or benefit but there's no compelling use case over far less invasive alternatives. I mean, how friggin convenient do you actually need vending machines and security access to be? Is life so difficult for you in that regard that you want to start merging your body with the tech? Well knock yourself out ... I'm not participating.
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29-07-2017, 12:52 AM
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(24-07-2017 12:19 AM)SYZ Wrote:  It's voluntary, so it's of no concern to me. I've got more important things to worry about. Confused
Voluntary today. Mandatory tomorrow.Facepalm

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29-07-2017, 01:27 AM (This post was last modified: 29-07-2017 01:47 AM by Oaken.)
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This wouldn't surprise me at all.



Terrified that microchips will usher in the antichrist, Christians released their own tracking alternative called the CROSS-SPOT which will be implanted by the laying of hands. The Cross-Spot is a cross shaped tracking device and when paired with other electronic options as the Mind of Christ implant and the Loin Guard anti-viagra device, followers of Jesus will be able to have bible verses sent straight to their inner ear, combat the annoyance of distracting erections, or be able to pay their tithes with a series of facial gestures. Pastors like the idea because they will be able to keep track of the faithful. Christian mothers like it because they can (quite literally) know where their kids are at all times. The Cross-Spot will read heart rate and other life stats and be able to be viewed by competent professionals (like youth pastors) who will be able to know which of their youth members is compulsively masturbating, or using drugs. "Why should the antichrist get to be the one in control?" asked Senior Pastor Bryce Elkins. "The shepherds have a divine mandate to protect the flock. And now we can keep an eye on the flock... wherever they go."

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29-07-2017, 06:02 AM
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(26-07-2017 09:29 AM)mordant Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 08:22 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  How is being chipped giving the government much power over you?
It is highly symbolic.

Bosh.
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29-07-2017, 10:29 AM
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(29-07-2017 06:02 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 09:29 AM)mordant Wrote:  It is highly symbolic.

Bosh.
The human mind deals in symbols and symbolism. I'm not saying it should be that way, just that it is, and few there be who override it with their rational mind.

Letting any uber-entity, be it an employer or a government, implant some object inside your actual body, regardless of the supposed / stated purpose, is a symbolic act of submission and fealty. That is why people resist it.

Whether they should or not is a separate question.
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29-07-2017, 10:51 AM
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(29-07-2017 10:29 AM)mordant Wrote:  
(29-07-2017 06:02 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  Bosh.
The human mind deals in symbols and symbolism. I'm not saying it should be that way, just that it is, and few there be who override it with their rational mind.

Letting any uber-entity, be it an employer or a government, implant some object inside your actual body, regardless of the supposed / stated purpose, is a symbolic act of submission and fealty. That is why people resist it.

Whether they should or not is a separate question.

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