Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws
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30-03-2011, 08:31 AM
RE: Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws
@sosa
I remembered this guy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpb4nwfiaPY

Now that is sick.

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30-03-2011, 09:16 AM
RE: Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws
(30-03-2011 08:31 AM)gaglamesh731 Wrote:  @sosa
I remembered this guy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpb4nwfiaPY

Now that is sick.

lol, I totally remember this now...can't believe I forgot about this incident.

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30-03-2011, 06:19 PM
RE: Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws
(30-03-2011 05:16 AM)ConditionYellow Wrote:  And living in a trailer park was nothing like you just described.

The ones I've been in were.

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30-03-2011, 07:25 PM (This post was last modified: 30-03-2011 07:29 PM by BnW.)
RE: Minnesota Republicans say: Poor people with money should be outlaws
CY

I think you have completely missed my point.

(29-03-2011 09:26 PM)ConditionYellow Wrote:  Uh, yeah. About that. The vast majority of welfare recipients in the US are white. But this too is irrelivent.

Fair point, but as a % of their respective populations, I think blacks have it much worse.


(29-03-2011 09:26 PM)ConditionYellow Wrote:  First off, "we" (as in I) never agreed to this. The government was doing this on my behalf, and against my will, before I was born.

Second off, that's just ridiculous. Show me that in writing on some kind of mission statement or charter. Show me where that is even implied.

This is where I think you missed the point. I'm not condoning this, or agreeing with it or saying I'm happy about it. I'm saying this is the reality of it. And, by "we" yes, I mean the royal "we", as in "we the people" through our brilliant elected officials. And, you do realize I was being metaphorical, right?

(29-03-2011 09:26 PM)ConditionYellow Wrote:  Yes, because poor people never grow up to be successful.

It's that Jesse Jackson mentality of yours that "you will always be poor and nobody" that perpetuates this vicious welfare cycle. It's that exact type of mentality that is poison to anyone who wants to try make themselves better. People with that mentality telling kids "No, you can't!"

And frankly, it's sickening.

You're still missing the point. I never said that people cannot climb out of poverty. I said that we have stacked the deck against certain groups of people so badly that it is almost impossible for them to climb out. We give them shit schools, high crime rates, no police protection, lots of violence, minimal job opportunities, etc. and then almost dare them to beat the odds and blame them when they can't. It's absurd. And, every now and again you get a Colin Powell who does make it out and people shout "See! See! It can be done".

What is sickening is that we continue to think that some how we can continue to do the same thing over and over, expect something to change, and blame the groups of people we've screwed when it doesn't.

Oh, I'm not sure if this is clear but I am absolutely against welfare. I think it has exacerbated and increase poverty and has done far more harm than good.

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