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12-03-2014, 02:01 PM
RE: Miss Meng has an important announcement
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12-03-2014, 02:02 PM
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(12-03-2014 01:36 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  AH YEAH ANOTHER ONE OF MISS MENG'S BRILLIANT POSTS TO ADD TO MY SPANK BANK! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin !!!!!!!

Did you say spank?
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12-03-2014, 04:42 PM
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(12-03-2014 01:15 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  Miss Meng would like to announce that she hopes in due course we can clear up this confusion about your understanding and confusion about God and be on our way to a very loving, caring and most importantly, rational forum. As founder and resident moral guardian of this movement I hope I can answer questions, concerns and comments. I am most glad we have this opportunity as Miss Meng is quietly confident all confusion will be put right. Miss Meng smiles warmly at all of your happy, optimistic faces.

~ Miss Meng

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12-03-2014, 04:42 PM
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(12-03-2014 02:02 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 01:36 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  AH YEAH ANOTHER ONE OF MISS MENG'S BRILLIANT POSTS TO ADD TO MY SPANK BANK! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin !!!!!!!

Did you say spank?
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12-03-2014, 04:59 PM
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(12-03-2014 02:02 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 01:36 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  AH YEAH ANOTHER ONE OF MISS MENG'S BRILLIANT POSTS TO ADD TO MY SPANK BANK! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin !!!!!!!

Did you say spank?
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12-03-2014, 05:01 PM
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Anjele doesn't give a shit about Miss Me's announcements or pronouncements.

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12-03-2014, 05:02 PM
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(12-03-2014 05:01 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Anjele doesn't give a shit about Miss Me's announcements or pronouncements.

Miss Meng smiles. Then why did you reply, dear? Miss Meng laughs genially and goes to make a cup of green tea.

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12-03-2014, 05:03 PM
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(12-03-2014 05:02 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 05:01 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Anjele doesn't give a shit about Miss Me's announcements or pronouncements.

Miss Meng smiles. Then why did you reply, dear? Miss Meng laughs genially and goes to make a cup of green tea.

~ Miss Meng

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12-03-2014, 06:34 PM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2014 06:38 PM by Reltzik.)
RE: Miss Meng has an important announcement
Let's break this down by proposition.


Goal: A better, more civil forum. I'd love it. I'm teetering on leaving these forums for good, and one reason is the severe lack of civility. Not by everyone, by any measure. But by enough people (I won't name names), frequently enough, rapidly enough, that it poisons a great many potentially reasonable conversations.

Some people here are deserving of that incivility. (Again, I won't name names.) But I've seen some people come in who express themselves as, say, Christians who are having doubts and want our perspectives on certain common arguments that they're finding a bit persuasive. And the response by many (though, as I said, not all) is immediate, vitriolic hostility, not towards just towards Christianity in general or the argument being discussed (which I'd find acceptable), but the poster in particular. The usual accusation is that it's someone here to proselytize under the guise of having doubts. Basically, ad hominem, either in place of a deconstruction of the argument or tacked on to the end just to be angry. And maybe the charge is correct. I wouldn't be surprised if it sometimes is. But it's so frequently deployed without a shred of evidence, that I can't help but suspect that many of the innocent are getting hit with it along with the guilty, and often driven off. I don't know if this forum even has a declared mission statement... but if it does have one, and if it includes fostering or hosting discussion on these topics, then its definitely failing. I don't know how to fix it. It might be unfixable. That's why I'm increasingly feeling like leaving.


Proposed Method of Fixing It: Crickets

No, seriously. That's totally left blank. Unless I were to take that clearing up our misunderstandings about God as how everyone here is going to make everyone become nice and happy? I dunno, it's kinda vague. A, I don't think that accomplishing the first, were that even possible or were the blanket assumptions true, would lead to the second. And B....


OP clearing up our misunderstandings about God: ... highly dubious at best. The OP has several pending questions unanswered, has expressed an inability to follow moderately complex posts (and, presumably, moderately complex questions in posts), has presented no credentials to establish authority, no convincing arguments to build authority, and has offered... well, basically nothing we haven't seen before in terms of argumentation. Utter boilerplate or empty verbal fencing. Maybe she'll whip out something to surprise us all. But it will be a HUGE surprise if she does.


OP declaring herself founder and moral guardian of this "movement":

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... sorry, I was just browsing through the emoticon list. And there is no emoticon there to express my response to this, at least not to a sufficient degree. .... maybe if someone could fuse the eye-twitch, facepalm, shock, dodgy, and laughter emoticons all into one. The OP has not established any sort of authority -- personal, moral, positional, any at all -- to qualify as any sort of moral guardian, other than the ability to maintain at least a facade of civility. While I'll admit that's an improvement over some people who come through here (on either side), that's such a very low bar. But if anything, she has inspired a great deal of incivility. If I were to turn to someone to fix it, I'd probably point to someone who doesn't do that.

Also, "hopes" do not count as a movement. Nor does a total lack of a plan. Nor does a plan hinging on a person doing something she's been trying to do since she got here and, well, failing at.


All in all? D+. She gets minimal points for identifying a problem that almost anyone could identify when hit by it. ... and that's it. No plan, no resources, no recruits, nothing that could count as a movement.


tl;dr: Yes, these forums have a civility issue. No, MM is not the one to fix it. She has neither plan, nor credibility, nor authority, nor the ability to recruit. No, answering questions about God will not do the trick. No, MM is not the person to do that, either.
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12-03-2014, 06:34 PM
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(12-03-2014 01:23 PM)itsnotmeitsyou Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 01:15 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  ...confusion... ...confusion... ...rational... ...confusion... ...Reason and Rationality.




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