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01-03-2016, 09:16 AM
RE: Modern physics has brought us nothing
(01-03-2016 09:06 AM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  In my experience lurking around conspiracy boards, this whole schtick about
"Einstein stealing Tesla's work" seems to be rooted in a Elder Protocols style antisemitism.

Figures. It's one thing to make a conspiracy about a legitimate mystery. It takes a special kind of idiot to create and/or maintain a conspiracy theory about proven frauds.

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01-03-2016, 10:53 AM
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(01-03-2016 07:57 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(01-03-2016 06:54 AM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  Not an ad hominem?

wow! You are funny!

Of course it is girly, of course.

No, saying that an argument is wrong because the person appears to be an idiot is an ad hominem. Saying that somebody appears to be an idiot AND the argument is wrong or that somebody appears to be an idiot because their argument is wrong is not. Nuance is important. Not every insult is an ad hominem.

You seem to be under the impression that people think Einstein came out of nowhere, worked in a vacuum, and produced a perfected understanding of physics with no errors. There is no question that he started with the work that went before and that his theories have been refined and extended since his time. That doesn't detract from the contributions he made or the recognition of his brilliance. Tesla was also a very smart individual but, as was already noted, has a different focus and comparing the two doesn't make much sense to me. Tesla used the work of earlier scientists so if Einstein gets no credit for his work then Tesla deserves none for his either. I think both deserve a lot of credit and respect for the things they accomplished.

I frankly don't understand what your actual point is or why you have such a visceral dislike for Einstein.

People here don't even get what an Ad Hominem is.

But it is funny. In a way.
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01-03-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: Modern physics has brought us nothing
Does OP have a single fact to present?

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01-03-2016, 11:24 AM
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(01-03-2016 10:58 AM)cjlr Wrote:  Does OP have a single fact to present?

Of course not. Presenting evidence would move the conversation forward, and the OP clearly only cares to run around in circles.

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01-03-2016, 11:34 AM
RE: Modern physics has brought us nothing
(01-03-2016 10:53 AM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  People here don't even get what an Ad Hominem is.

But it is funny. In a way.

Of course we don't. Care to enlighten us?

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01-03-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: Modern physics has brought us nothing
(01-03-2016 10:53 AM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  People here don't even get what an Ad Hominem is.

You seem to be fixated on this particular logical fallacy. You also demonstrate that you have absolutely no idea what it means.

wikipedia article

So in an effort to introduce some variety into this mind-numbingly pointless exercise, here is a link to a list of logical fallacies.

With a bit of reading you can soon be posting away, falsely accusing us of a variety of crimes, rather than a single one.

Enjoy!

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01-03-2016, 11:57 AM
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(01-03-2016 10:53 AM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  
(01-03-2016 07:57 AM)unfogged Wrote:  No, saying that an argument is wrong because the person appears to be an idiot is an ad hominem. Saying that somebody appears to be an idiot AND the argument is wrong or that somebody appears to be an idiot because their argument is wrong is not. Nuance is important. Not every insult is an ad hominem.

You seem to be under the impression that people think Einstein came out of nowhere, worked in a vacuum, and produced a perfected understanding of physics with no errors. There is no question that he started with the work that went before and that his theories have been refined and extended since his time. That doesn't detract from the contributions he made or the recognition of his brilliance. Tesla was also a very smart individual but, as was already noted, has a different focus and comparing the two doesn't make much sense to me. Tesla used the work of earlier scientists so if Einstein gets no credit for his work then Tesla deserves none for his either. I think both deserve a lot of credit and respect for the things they accomplished.

I frankly don't understand what your actual point is or why you have such a visceral dislike for Einstein.

People here don't even get what an Ad Hominem is.

But it is funny. In a way.

Oh we do indeed.
If we didn't before, YOU certainly taught us well, what they are, and how to use them, by all yours against Einstein. Thumbsup

But since you didn't know what "circular" actually was, or the fallacy of the argument from authority, I really doubt you actually know what this one is, either.

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01-03-2016, 12:05 PM
RE: Modern physics has brought us nothing
(01-03-2016 10:53 AM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  People here don't even get what an Ad Hominem is.

But it is funny. In a way.

We're not the ones misusing the term. You have repeatedly misused it throughout this thread but seem unwilling or unable to consider that you just might be wrong about anything.

It is also telling that you respond to that sort of comment without actually responding to arguments against your claims or actually providing much evidence to support them. The relationship between mass and kinetic energy in the quote you posted does not imply that the equivalency of mass and energy was known and that's what the E=MCC equation is alluding to. Even if it was hypothesized before his time, it was the work Einstein went on to do with it that made him a great scientist.

You've also provided nothing to support the idea that an aether exists or that Einstein's work on relativity was either stolen or incorrect. Finally, you keep waffling between modern physics having stolen everything from the work of earlier geniuses and it being wrong and not seeming to notice that those claims are not compatible.

It looks like Dunning-Kruger has another notch in its belt.

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01-03-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Modern physics has brought us nothing
(29-02-2016 02:14 PM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  Dis you know his wife did his math.

You might want to consider letting your wife or a ghostwriter do your posts.

(01-03-2016 10:53 AM)Tryffyuthaskan Wrote:  People here don't even get what an Ad Hominem is.

This coming from a dude who doesn't know the difference between nuclear fission and fusion.

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01-03-2016, 01:04 PM
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In light of your incredible ability to shitpost to over 27 pages on a worthless thread....... I dub thee The Tryffyuthaskan Continuum.

Congratulations, it was well deserved. You may retrieve your reward from underneath that outhouse over there.

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