"Morality in Media" and the religious resistance to porn
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23-02-2012, 01:19 PM (This post was last modified: 23-02-2012 01:27 PM by Buddy Christ.)
"Morality in Media" and the religious resistance to porn
So here's this video.







Here's what I gather from the video. The people trying to force their "morality" on the rest of the world are easily offended, emotionally unstable Bible thumpers who are completely out of touch with the rest of the world. Granted, I wouldn't want porn being played near me on a plane, but I wouldn't burst into tears and contact the cops because I was offended by it.

The Morality in Media website is now shut down down from all the people contacting it and displays this message:

"Morality in Media has been taken offline to prevent illegal access
by those who think pornography is harmless.

Pornography is NOT harmless and no matter how much you want porn to be normal, it isn't!

Your IP address is xxx-xxx and has been recorded."


I hear that shit all the time. "Women don't WANT to be in porn, they are trapped in the business and are being exploited." Really? Cause I'd LOVE to be "trapped" in a business that pays millions for having sex all day.

To "ban" porn would be to make illegal a product that generates trillions annually in revenue. You know what that does? Makes millions of new criminals and trillions of black market dollars. It would also make the regulated unregulated. So it would have the opposite effect that these "I would only blow Jesus" fanatics are preaching.

Why do these people despise sex so much? 99% of porn on the internet is consensual, and the 1% that isn't is already illegal. So what's the argument here? Women in porn don't actually know that they don't want to be in porn, so this lady is protecting them from themselves?

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23-02-2012, 02:33 PM
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She has the right to be offended but being offended does not make her right.

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23-02-2012, 04:15 PM
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Out of curiosity, where'd you get that statistic that 99% of internet porn is consensual? That'd be useful in my theology class. Big Grin
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23-02-2012, 04:43 PM
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I think that do-gooders who spout crap about how women don't want to be in porn, and how porn is offensive to women, are actually being very condescending to women. Who the hell is anyone to tell a porn star whether or not they are happy in their profession? They are adults who have a right to make their own decisions in life, if they wanna spend all day having sex for money then that is their prerogative.

I'd love to see how these religious people reacted if I went around claiming that religion should be banned because no-one actually wanted to be religious and they were all just trapped and exploited. I know how they would react, they'd go absolutely fucking mental at having someone else dictate to them how they feel about something. Yet they still think it's acceptable to do it to others.

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23-02-2012, 06:00 PM
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Ok, I must admit I only got to about 12 minutes (he talks WAY too much belaboring the same point and she makes me want to choke puppies), but I think I got the jist.

Lets be clear from the git-go. I like porn. A lot. So perhaps my perspective is slightly bias. But I think what that woman needs is to sit down and actually watch some good porn. I mean how could she not like porn if she actually watched it?? Let her watch a scene or two, then send in her husband/vibrator and let her revel in the glory of porn!!!!That'll change her mind right quick. Wink

As for the dude on the plane....when she asked if he was watching porn he shoulda said, "Ya, and it's a good one too. Want me to turn it up so you can hear?"

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24-02-2012, 03:15 AM
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(23-02-2012 01:19 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  Really? Cause I'd LOVE to be "trapped" in a business that pays millions for having sex all day.

I dunno, sounds like a damned hassle to me. Constantly testing for STDs and worrying about your looks and putting on a good show? I'm sure it's not all it's cracked up to be.

(23-02-2012 01:19 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  Why do these people despise sex so much?

They think it's dirty.

In seriousness, many women take it personally that their men go seek out porn for satisfaction. (Yeah yeah, heteronormative. I'm part of the problem; bite me.) At least, the women who've shared their feelings with me on the subject felt that way. Frankly, I see where they're coming from.

(23-02-2012 04:15 PM)Ben Wrote:  Out of curiosity, where'd you get that statistic that 99% of internet porn is consensual?

2011 department of pornography statistics and labor relations survey.

(23-02-2012 04:43 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  They are adults who have a right to make their own decisions in life, if they wanna spend all day having sex for money then that is their prerogative.

My cousin modeled (fashion) in LA, and that industry is pretty exploitative. As in, not paying people for their work sometimes. I would be surprised if pornography were less exploitative and not more. I'm just talking out my ass here, but I seriously doubt most people who star in porn feel empowered, and I'd be surprised if many of them didn't feel just a bit trapped. If nothing else, by making easy money by doing something that comes...more or less naturally.

(23-02-2012 06:00 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  I mean how could she not like porn if she actually watched it?? Let her watch a scene or two, then send in her husband/vibrator and let her revel in the glory of porn!!!!That'll change her mind right quick. Wink

I don't know what women you hang out with, but I don't think this would be true of hardly any of my lady friends. I mean, it'd be sweet if it were true and we all could just be okay enjoying porn together, but y'know...not everybody enjoys it. Lots of people, it just turns 'em off. Personally, I can be okay with that. Okay enough to at least not watch porn on a plane where I know people are going to spy on my screen. It's a fucking airplane, people just can't mind their own damn business.
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24-02-2012, 07:29 AM
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The women I hang out with, particularly my wife, do indeed enjoy porn. In fact I can think of only a few that I know of that aren't particularly turned on by it. Depends on the people you spend time with I suppose, but I find most people like it after they get over the stigma attached. (That is if they ever needed to get over it in the first place).

As for not watching on a plane....it's not a choice I'd make personally, but at the end of the day, if you can't mind your own business, and I'm not waving the ipad in your face, then I say fuck that woman if she doesn't like it.

And yes, I have had (limited) exposure to the porn industry. No, I was never in porn (just not gifted that way Wink), but I dated someone who was in it. Never heard a story of her or anyone else not getting paid, and she liked doing it. It doesn`t pay as well as many think it does, but it pays pretty damn good, and the one time I was "on set" the atmosphere was suprisingly relaxed and professional at the same time. Everyone there seemed to be comfortable and professional. But like I say, my experience was limited to that one time.

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24-02-2012, 04:24 PM
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(24-02-2012 07:29 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  The women I hang out with, particularly my wife, do indeed enjoy porn. In fact I can think of only a few that I know of that aren't particularly turned on by it. Depends on the people you spend time with I suppose, but I find most people like it after they get over the stigma attached. (That is if they ever needed to get over it in the first place).

As for not watching on a plane....it's not a choice I'd make personally, but at the end of the day, if you can't mind your own business, and I'm not waving the ipad in your face, then I say fuck that woman if she doesn't like it.

And yes, I have had (limited) exposure to the porn industry. No, I was never in porn (just not gifted that way Wink), but I dated someone who was in it. Never heard a story of her or anyone else not getting paid, and she liked doing it. It doesn`t pay as well as many think it does, but it pays pretty damn good, and the one time I was "on set" the atmosphere was suprisingly relaxed and professional at the same time. Everyone there seemed to be comfortable and professional. But like I say, my experience was limited to that one time.

It's good to have a firsthand account. So many religious talk like they know the porn industry like the back of their hand, but I doubt any of them have every experienced it. Dodgy
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24-02-2012, 04:34 PM
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Don’t have anything against porn, it is there and popular for a reason.
What I have an issue with (sort of, don’t really care too much) is why a sex scene is heavily censored in media but machine gunning someone down is not?
Often in the same movie.
Sex is part of life, everyone does it (yea not 100% but lets not split hairs) but not too many people run amok with an AK.

Seems a little lop sided that two (or more, your fantasy) people grinding away is more offensive than someone getting killed.
What would you prefer to walk in on?
Or be apart of for that matter?

I do like a little violence in movies too though (best place for it), but if you have one you might as well have the balance.
R18, we're all big boys and girls and should be able to handle it.

Don’t think I’d watch it on a plane. I’m a firm believer that joining the mile high club should take two.

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24-02-2012, 04:56 PM
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(24-02-2012 07:29 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Depends on the people you spend time with I suppose, but I find most people like it after they get over the stigma attached.

Yeah, I suppose it does. Smile Coming from a religious background probably biases me substantially toward having prudish friends.

(24-02-2012 07:29 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  I say fuck that woman if she doesn't like it.

Nah, she's probably terrible in the sack.

(24-02-2012 07:29 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  And yes, I have had (limited) exposure to the porn industry. No, I was never in porn (just not gifted that way Wink), but I dated someone who was in it.

Your first hand account trumps that which I have pulled out of my ass. I'm sure there is abuse in the industry, but how much I can't say. Maybe it is a job that is just as prone to abuse as any other. You knowing someone who did it and was well-adjusted, I have to admit, surprises me. In a good way. Smile

(24-02-2012 04:34 PM)Karl Wrote:  What I have an issue with (sort of, don’t really care too much) is why a sex scene is heavily censored in media but machine gunning someone down is not?

I'm with you. One of the first times I caught 24, Jack Bauer shot a bad guy, wrapped a chain around his neck, and lifted him off his feet, choking him to death. I kinda felt like Calvin after I watched it:
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But then I saw the Super Bowl halftime show with the wardrobe malfunction, when the country rose up in moral ire and righteous indignation...over a half a second of nipple.

Wat?
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