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22-08-2017, 01:04 PM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
I'm of a mind to say:

Hey, Evangelicals, go ahead, please, keep towing the party line. Don't distance yourself from Hair Furor. Evil_monster

Here's hoping that your blatant moral hypocrisy will further alienate potential churchgoers, and perhaps lead more members of your flocks to question their beliefs.

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22-08-2017, 02:48 PM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(22-08-2017 01:04 PM)Reducetarian Wrote:  I'm of a mind to say:

Hey, Evangelicals, go ahead, please, keep towing the party line. Don't distance yourself from Hair Furor. Evil_monster

Here's hoping that your blatant moral hypocrisy will further alienate potential churchgoers, and perhaps lead more members of your flocks to question their beliefs.

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Yeah, it's not like I'm holding my breath looking for moral leadership (other than from behind) from these groups. It's just the change from when I was in the faith, to them having a MODICUM of actual defensible moral convictions, to being totally craven.
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22-08-2017, 03:01 PM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(22-08-2017 05:58 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 02:41 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  Christianity is about following orders from on high not morality and apparently no order was given.

You really don't know what you're talking about. Christianity is all about morality. You can't just redefine words/concepts because you don't agree with those words/concepts

The fuck it is.

It's all about stroking the ego of your made up god.
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22-08-2017, 03:27 PM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(21-08-2017 02:16 PM)mordant Wrote:  Well I never thought I'd see the day but here it is.

While both of Trump's business councils (AND his arts council) have resigned en masse, nothing but crickets from his Christian friends.

I guess they're okay with moral equivalency between neo-Nazis and counter-protesters so long as they get their Supreme Court nominees.

Here's another one for the Irony Meter: despite that I'm sure they advocate for artistic freedom in ways that chafe the chaste hides of fundamentalists, the Arts Council (which was established back in the early 1980s) managed to put out this scathing document of moral outrage. But the church? Crickets again.

(Yes I suppose I could put this in politics by my point isn't political, it's moral and religious).


That was an awesome letter. And priceless with the way the first letter of each paragraph spelled out "resist"

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22-08-2017, 04:32 PM (This post was last modified: 22-08-2017 04:38 PM by Shai Hulud.)
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(22-08-2017 12:13 PM)mordant Wrote:  
(21-08-2017 03:42 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  One guy quit. And he was black.

Not that I needed it but it tells me everything I need to know about xristards.
I read today that one guy did quit a few days ago, maybe that's your guy?

Also read today that the pressure on the council to quit or at least openly censure Trump as a group is supposedly "tremendous", both from inside and outside their churches. But they are still thinking like Elon Musk was at first -- it's more important to have a seat at the table than to cede it altogether. Musk in fact realized he was wrong before Charlottesville -- he quit over Trump's withdraw from the Paris Accords.

So in fairness, there IS non-zero concern about this within the church, it's simply not reaching the people who need to act on it. They are like GOP legislators, extremely uncomfortable but too cowardly to act.

Actually ever since the church made its unholy alliance with the political right in the 1980s, it has been addicted to a "seat at the table" (AKA, political influence and power) and it doesn't in the abstract surprise me that they have sunk so low as to cast their lot with Trump AND to weather one moral violation after another so long as they get a few of their pet Shibboleths accommodated. But as a former evangelical it does astound and sadden me. Evangelicalism of the 1960s and 1970s would be utterly repelled by politics itself, much less by corrupt and morally bankrupt politicians. They considered it beneath them. How things have changed ...

A side point for those who are curious: the notion that the Bible teaches that life begins at conception was barely known, much less a consensus view, prior to the politicization of the church some two generations ago. That was a doctrine concocted out of thin air to politicize the abortion debate. That is just one small way the church has changed from a relatively detached stance to a ruthless tactical and strategic involvement with the secular political world.

Plus Trump is still feeding them with his judicial appointments and Evangelicals don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. (Also morality aside, I suspect the business leaders are also smart enough to not want to face backlash that would hurt their profits.)

If anyone wants to listen to a bit more about Mordant's excellent series of points about the politicization of abortion over the last two generations and how the church has moved from relatively apolitical to an arm of the Republican Party, there's a great segment on Samantha Bee, where she even talks to one of the founders of the Pro-Life Movement (there needed to be an issue to rally behind after segregation wasn't working any more), who calls it the greatest regret of his life.





Also as an aside, the leaders may not give a shit about wanting to abandon the scraps they're given by Trump, but 14% of American Christians stopped going to their churches after the election.

Edit: Apologies. The interview with a founder of the Pro-Life Movement was in Part Two.

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22-08-2017, 05:58 PM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(22-08-2017 03:01 PM)ResidentEvilFan Wrote:  
(22-08-2017 05:58 AM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  You really don't know what you're talking about. Christianity is all about morality. You can't just redefine words/concepts because you don't agree with those words/concepts

The fuck it is.

It's all about stroking the ego of your made up god.

Stop trying to be edgy. You know I'm right.
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23-08-2017, 06:36 AM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(22-08-2017 05:58 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(22-08-2017 03:01 PM)ResidentEvilFan Wrote:  The fuck it is.

It's all about stroking the ego of your made up god.

Stop trying to be edgy. You know I'm right.
Apart from the notions of Christianity that are all about you can do anything as long as you attone or just believe in Jesus as your savior depending on the branches it stands on.

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23-08-2017, 07:12 AM
RE: Morality of Business Leaders > Morality of Christianity
(22-08-2017 05:58 PM)Angra Mainyu Wrote:  
(22-08-2017 03:01 PM)ResidentEvilFan Wrote:  The fuck it is.

It's all about stroking the ego of your made up god.

Stop trying to be edgy. You know I'm right.

Ah, the bark of the self-righteous.
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