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13-04-2015, 04:13 PM
RE: "More Guns means Safer" the nonsensical pro-NRA argument
Switzerland gun laws

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/switzerland

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13-04-2015, 04:14 PM
"More Guns means Safer" the nonsensical pro-NRA argument
(13-04-2015 04:13 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(13-04-2015 04:08 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Switzerland also has much more restrictive gun laws (I linked to that data and cite Switzerlands murder rate in my OP, you must have conveniently missed that).

And hey, Somalia and Syria are not comparable first world countries with similar government systems or levels of individual freedom.

Your argument is flaccid and unconvincing. It also fails to address the op or the lack of a trend I discuss.

Of course "My argument is flaccid and unconvincing" -- you've already made up your mind that you're right and you're willing to cook the books to get your result....


Take a look at the countries that have over 30 guns per 100 population..... For the most part - real nice places to live....

Check out the bottom of the chart --- Places like North Korea pop up.....

You don't see that correlation do you???

Of course you don't....

.......


You win.....

Try to take the guns away....


Good luck with that...

Listen, dumbass, at what point did I say anything about "taking the guns away"?

And I've shown you the data and lack of trend, you're the one with your index fingers firmly placed in your ears screaming that "I'm right and you're wrong!!!!"

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13-04-2015, 04:28 PM
RE: "More Guns means Safer" the nonsensical pro-NRA argument
No guns don't make things safer. It is not just murder, though guns don't equal violence. I never got guns though, such a pathetic weapon, feels so unhonorable.

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13-04-2015, 04:31 PM
"More Guns means Safer" the nonsensical pro-NRA argument
(13-04-2015 04:28 PM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  No guns don't make things safer. It is not just murder, though guns don't equal violence. I never got guns though, such a pathetic weapon, feels so unhonorable.

The data is pretty clear. There is no trend in gun ownership and reduction in any crime.

At least, I thought that was unambiguous and painfully clear but alas, I've been shown that some will still react with "you'll pry my gun from cold dead hands" and "shove your stats and facts up yer ass!"

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13-04-2015, 04:34 PM
RE: "More Guns means Safer" the nonsensical pro-NRA argument
I like guns. They're great tools, and fun to use. I won't disagree with the data though...

Kind of like sitting on my ass for extended periods of time. Statistics show it's terribad for health; It probably is, but it's still a fantastic way to pass the time.
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13-04-2015, 04:36 PM
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I like Jim Jeffries' analysis of guns. The "fuck off, I like guns" argument is the only one pro-gun advocates have. It isn't particularly strong in terms of arguing for the functional use of guns by the average citizen, but at least it's an honest answer.

Our constitution allows for owning guns, so unless we amend it to remove that (seems unlikely), we will have guns in the U.S. We just need better and more homogenous policies and procedures for guns and gun owners.

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13-04-2015, 04:43 PM
RE: "More Guns means Safer" the nonsensical pro-NRA argument
I don't much care one way or the other what the statistics say but I will point out that hunting moose with a stick is largely ineffective...Smile

And bows take a lot of skill.
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13-04-2015, 04:44 PM
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(13-04-2015 04:43 PM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  I don't much care one way or the other what the statistics say but I will point out that hunting moose with a stick is largely ineffective...Smile

What is the point of hunting moose?

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13-04-2015, 04:44 PM
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(13-04-2015 04:43 PM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  I don't much care one way or the other what the statistics say but I will point out that hunting moose with a stick is largely ineffective...Smile

But certainly more sporting.

Think about it. You tell a friend you killed a moose with a 30-06 at 100 yards.

Or

You killed a moose with a big goddamn stick at point blank range.

Which scenario is more badass and makes a better campfire story?

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13-04-2015, 04:46 PM
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(13-04-2015 04:44 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(13-04-2015 04:43 PM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  I don't much care one way or the other what the statistics say but I will point out that hunting moose with a stick is largely ineffective...Smile

But certainly more sporting.

Think about it. You tell a friend you killed a moose with a 30-06 at 100 yards.

Or

You killed a moose with a big goddamn stick at point blank range.

Which scenario is more badass and makes a better campfire story?

I guess the story about a moose trampling my ass is definitely a more interesting one.
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