Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
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17-01-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 03:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 03:18 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  A bunch of crazy ass people who belief that death is a rejection of life....now that a level of crazy that makes my blood pressure go up. And its not worth it.
if you are just a piece of meat then you can not reject anything. You can not choose anything.
Is this what you believe? that you are just a piece of meat (and bones)?

Well yes and no, Alla.
Yes I am meat and bones and yes I can make *some* of my choices. But death is only a Choice for me if I commit suicide. If death comes naturally for me - then I am not choosing death.

When you say "rejection" you imply choice. That's all.
Maybe there's a better word than "rejection" of death since logically speaking death can most certainly arrive without warning or wish.

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17-01-2014, 03:58 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 03:31 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 03:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  if you are just a piece of meat than you can not reject anything. You can not choose anything.
Is this what you believe? that you are just piece of meat and bones?

re·ject (r-jkt)
tr.v. re·ject·ed, re·ject·ing, re·jects
1. To refuse to accept, submit to, believe, or make use of.
2. To refuse to consider or grant; deny.
3. To refuse to recognize or give affection to (a person).
4. To discard as defective or useless; throw away. See Synonyms at refuse1.
5. To spit out or vomit.

All of these require a conscious choice. People do not - in general - consciously choose to die.
but spirits/intelligences choose to enter mortal physical body(body that will die eventually) in order to have new opportunities and hopefully eternal life.
again you believe that piece of meat makes choices. But this is not what I believe.
I believe that spirit makes choices like to enter in mortal body or not to enter - to be or not to be.Smile
Spirit can reject life. Rejection of life = death.

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17-01-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 03:49 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 03:24 PM)Alla Wrote:  if you are just a piece of meat then you can not reject anything. You can not choose anything.
Is this what you believe? that you are just a piece of meat (and bones)?

Well yes and no, Alla.
Yes I am meat and bones and yes I can make *some* of my choices. But death is only a Choice for me if I commit suicide. If death comes naturally for me - then I am not choosing death.

When you say "rejection" you imply choice. That's all.
Maybe there's a better word than "rejection" of death since logically speaking death can most certainly arrive without warning or wish.

WitchSabrina, just admit that because you are both "meat and bones" and able to make choices, that there for Jesus.

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17-01-2014, 04:03 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
Where are these spirits that are waiting around for a mortal body to enter into? So life on this physical planet is just that whole "test" thing to get eternal life? If not how does a spirit attain eternal life?

“Truth does not demand belief. Scientists do not join hands every Sunday, singing, yes, gravity is real! I will have faith! I will be strong! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up, must come down, down, down. Amen! If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about it.”
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17-01-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 03:19 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 02:38 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Death is rejection of life!?!? Is that what you are going to call it when your body breaks down from (hopefully) old age, when the observable human life span runs out? It will come to an end - it won't come to a rejection to living.
Who am I? just a piece of physical matter? No, I am intelligence also. I am spirit. I can choose to live or to die.
But you believe that you are just a piece of physical matter. And you are right that piece of physical matter can not choose to live. As a matter of fact I believe that piece of physical matter without a spirit or intelligence can do NOTHING.


Alla - I'm one of the weird-Os on the forum who will say Yes I am physical matter And yes I am intelligence and YES I am also spirit. But there's an important distinction.........spirit - to me - does not mean the same thing as "spirit" does to you. I believe in the Human Spirit - not necessarily connected to a deity. For you it is deity. And that is where our road splits.

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I have learned (and spent Many years of studying) that the human spirit is fine and well on it's own. It requires no driving force to operate nor exist. Its originality need not be sought nor explained. The mystery of what the human spirit IS or where it came from I just don't care. And I won't willy nilly apply a source for it just for the sake of having one. I believe in People. And that sometimes they are capable of great good. No god required for that. To you (I assume) the spirit requires the source. in particular the source of a god. Not the same for me.

I'd much rather think you are smart and capable and able Just By yourself than relying on something unfounded and unproven in order for you to BE. Nope.......in my opinion you are just grand ....right there.....all by yourself. No batteries needed.

I hope this makes sense.

No batteries included. No batteries required.

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17-01-2014, 04:05 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 04:03 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Where are these spirits that are waiting around for a mortal body to enter into? So life on this physical planet is just that whole "test" thing to get eternal life? If not how does a spirit attain eternal life?

why are you going down this rabbit hole...you know where you will end up, Alice....unless...of course you actually want to go to the tea party with the mad hatter.

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17-01-2014, 04:06 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 04:01 PM)Raptor Jesus Wrote:  
(17-01-2014 03:49 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Well yes and no, Alla.
Yes I am meat and bones and yes I can make *some* of my choices. But death is only a Choice for me if I commit suicide. If death comes naturally for me - then I am not choosing death.

When you say "rejection" you imply choice. That's all.
Maybe there's a better word than "rejection" of death since logically speaking death can most certainly arrive without warning or wish.

WitchSabrina, just admit that because you are both "meat and bones" and able to make choices, that there for Jesus.



LOL Stop it Laughat

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17-01-2014, 04:06 PM (This post was last modified: 17-01-2014 04:12 PM by Alla.)
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 03:49 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Well yes and no, Alla.
Yes I am meat and bones and yes I can make *some* of my choices. But death is only a Choice for me if I commit suicide. If death comes naturally for me - then I am not choosing death.
If your belief that you are just a piece of physical matter then you are absolutely right. I agree then that death is just an absence of life. But I don't believe that your belief is true.

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17-01-2014, 04:10 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
Cath your posts have been JUST fine all day. Don't worry your pretty head over someone who purposefully confabulates ideals in order to (1) sound smarter than he is and (2) offer confusion because that's what silly trolls do. Your posts are fine.

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17-01-2014, 04:10 PM
RE: Mormonism: A White Supremacy Cult? (answer: yes)
(17-01-2014 04:03 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  Where are these spirits that are waiting around for a mortal body to enter into?
They are with their Father and their God. They are in place that is known by many by term "heaven"

(17-01-2014 04:03 PM)Timber1025 Wrote:  So life on this physical planet is just that whole "test" thing to get eternal life? If not how does a spirit attain eternal life?
Yes, this life is the test. And spirits without physical bodies can not have eternal life.

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