Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
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22-04-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 04:34 PM)Gordon Blue Wrote:  Correct me if i am wrong, but i believe the mormon church is also opposed to fellatio (not sure about cunnilinguis) and anal, within marriage, but i believe they also keep a dont ask dont tell policy, where they advise against it, but dont discuss it. So its not just masturbation they dont like.
I just couldnt imagine. Just stick it in and make a baby, i guess.

It is between my husband and I how we have sex. Husband and wife decide what they believe is comfortable for them and what is not. No guide lines. At least nobody ever instructed us.
If the Church gives us instructions I will let you know.

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22-04-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 09:25 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 11:23 AM)Alla Wrote:  It is not sanctified by God but it is not damned either. People who are not covenant with God do NOT know His laws. So, they do NOT sin. They transgress. There is the difference.
Only those who break covenants sin.
What a load of bullshit.

First off transgress is defined as "to do something not allowed : to disobey a command or law", so right off the bat your entirely full of shit as usual.

Also from a church statement issued in 1991 ..."Sexual relations are proper only between husband and wife appropriately expressed within the bonds of marriage. Any other sexual contact, including fornication, adultery, and homosexual and lesbian behavior is sinful .... We plead with those involved in such behavior to forsake it." So once again you are just making shit up to try and make your cult look less fucking dickish than it actually is.

Hell just last year your church clarified it's stance that gay members of the LDS are in apostasy, will be "disciplined" and that children living in a same-sex household can not receive a name, a blessing, or be baptized until at least 18, and whats even worse must disavow same-sex marriage and must not be in a house with a gay parent.

"....(LDS) church members represented as much as 80 to 90 percent of the early volunteers petitioning voters door-to-door and 50 percent of the campaign funds in support of California Proposition 8 (2008)....." to ban gay marriage.

Your church has actively campaigned against government recognition against same-sex marriage and has argued for the right for religious institutions to discriminate job applicantséhousing based on if they are gay or not. Furthermore the church has vocally supported an amendment to the Constitution to define marriage as SOLELY between a man an a woman.

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"Church president Spencer W. Kimball stated that he finds it hard to believe that one would choose to be homosexual by a conscious decision; instead, he suggested that it might be a spiritual disorder—with its roots in selfishness—resulting in feelings that must be overcome or suppressed."
"The church has also taught that homosexual behavior distorts loving relationships,[1] undermines the divinely created institution of the family[10] and can become an addiction."
"The church teaches that homosexual behavior has always been a grievous sin."
"In 1965, apostle Spencer W. Kimball addressed homosexuality in his speech "Love vs Lust." He called it a "heinous" sin, but taught those with homosexual "desires and tendencies" could overcome it "the same as if he had the urge toward petting or fornication or adultery."
"However, he also claimed that homosexual behavior can lead to sex with animals:

Sin in sex practices tends to have a "snowballing" effect. As the restraints fall away, Satan incites the carnal man to ever-deepening degeneracy in his search for excitement until in many instances he is lost to any former considerations of decency. Thus it is that through the ages, perhaps as an extension of homosexual practices, men and women have sunk even to seeking sexual satisfactions with animals.[53]"

"For example, in 1974, Kimball stated that "[e]very form of homosexuality is sin. Pornography is one of the approaches to that transgression."[65] Over half a decade later in a special message to all members of the church, Kimball stated that "[s]ometimes masturbation is the introduction to the more serious sins of exhibitionism and the gross sin of homosexuality."[66]"
"In 1978, Packer followed this up with "To the One", a sermon that was also published as a pamphlet, which characterized homosexual interaction as a perversion and presented the possibility that it had its roots in selfishness and could be cured with "unselfish thoughts, with unselfish acts"
I don't know what you are trying to prove here. I said that those who break covenants will be punished if they don't repent.
But those who never made covenants with God will not be damned for gay sex and gay marriage, for sex outside the marriage.

(21-04-2016 09:25 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  You are full of shit Alla, you are a brainwashed idiot in a hateful oppressive cult.
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22-04-2016, 11:27 PM (This post was last modified: 23-04-2016 05:24 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(22-04-2016 04:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  It is between my husband and I how we have sex. Husband and wife decide what they believe is comfortable for them and what is not. No guide lines. At least nobody ever instructed us.
If the Church gives us instructions I will let you know.


Well, there is that whole bit about how 'the gays' aren't allowed to have consensual orgasms, so it's not as if your church isn't dictating people's sexual lives. You just happen to fall within the bounds if what they find acceptable. But don't pretend like they're not trying to push their bullshit onto others, because they are; its why they give money to politicians that push their oppressive sexual agenda.

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23-04-2016, 06:59 AM
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My wife's church tried to tell us how sex is supposed to be before the pastor of that church married us. I am proud to say that my wife has gone from missionary only to a very kinky girl. Only took 5 years.
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23-04-2016, 10:01 AM (This post was last modified: 23-04-2016 10:05 AM by Leo.)
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
I masturbate 2-3 times a day. I'm a horny guy and watch porn every day. Lions are horny by nature. Fuck stupid religions. The only difference between me and religious dudes is that I'm honest. 99% percent of religious dudes that claim to never masturbate and watch porn are big time liars.

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23-04-2016, 01:10 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(22-04-2016 04:56 PM)Alla Wrote:  I don't know what you are trying to prove here.
What I'm proving, not trying but actually proving, is that once again you are lying to everyone here and just making shit up. You are saying things that are entirely contrary to the ACTUAL position of the Mormon church, your just bullshitting everyone here.

(22-04-2016 04:56 PM)Alla Wrote:  I said that.....
What you said asshole is that it's not a sin but a transgression, to which I pointed out that you don't know what fucking "transgression" even means and that yes according to the Mormon church it IS a sin one of the worst. Now you are just being your typical dishonest evasive self after you got caught in a lie like a dumbass.

(22-04-2016 04:56 PM)Alla Wrote:  But those who never made covenants with God will not be damned for gay sex and gay marriage, for sex outside the marriage.
Of course they wont be your gods a complete fiction but even outside that it's bullshit. I just showed that your church considers it one of the worst sins. SINS Alla, fucking SIN, not "transgression" but SIN.
You might still have a point if your Church was not ACTIVELY engaged in the suppression of homosexuals civil liberties. So here, in reality, your church is oppressive to minorities just like it always has been since it's founding.

You know next to nothing about your own religion except what other people spoon feed your gullible ass.

(22-04-2016 04:56 PM)Alla Wrote:  Smile
thank you.
If you think that being an accessory the the systematic oppression of a minority group due to reasons almost exclusively born out of ignorance and stupidity is a complement than your a worse human being than I thought.

You are lying and you need to stop.

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23-04-2016, 01:10 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 10:01 AM)Leo Wrote:  The only difference between me and religious dudes is that I'm honest. 99% percent of religious dudes that claim to never masturbate and watch porn are big time liars.
I would agree with this statement. But I can understand why you are honest and they are not. When you believe that what you do is right you don't have to hide it. But when you believe that what you do is wrong you WILL want to hide it.
I assume you are not perfect man. Smile

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23-04-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 01:10 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-04-2016 10:01 AM)Leo Wrote:  The only difference between me and religious dudes is that I'm honest. 99% percent of religious dudes that claim to never masturbate and watch porn are big time liars.
I would agree with this statement. But I can understand why you are honest and they are not. When you believe that what you do is right you don't have to hide it. But when you believe that what you do is wrong you WILL want to hide it.
Thank you for admitting that your church makes it's members more dishonest than non-members. Not that you haven't made that abundantly clear already with your own dishonest actions.

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23-04-2016, 01:14 PM
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(23-04-2016 01:10 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  What you said ASSHOLE is that it's not a sin...
I am not willing to read the rest. Adios, amigo! Kiss

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23-04-2016, 01:20 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 01:14 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-04-2016 01:10 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  What you said ASSHOLE is that it's not a sin...
I am not willing to read the rest. Adios, amigo! Kiss

That's cause it proves you a liar and that just makes you a coward now don't it? You told a lie and I beat you over your fucktarded head with it and now your gonna try and act like you have the moral high ground cause I sad *gasp* a bad word?

Lol fuck off cunt, you can bury your head in the sand all you want but it won't stop other people from seeing your a lying dishonest shitbag of a person.

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