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23-04-2016, 03:05 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation.
(23-04-2016 01:25 PM)Alla Wrote:  You ask very good questions.
I also want to ask you a few questions: did God ever tell you to make a covenant with Him before you have sex? Did He tell you to have sex only in marriage? Did you ever make this kind of covenant with God?
If your answers are "NO" then you can do WHATEVER you want.
God gives this law for a REASON ONLY to those who ALREADY made covenant with Him. Reason you don't have to worry about. Live your life the way you choose to live.

You didn't answer my questions, why does God ask for his followers, people like you who make a covenant with him to only have sex the ways he demands? Why does he care who you have sex with and how? The Bible is clear about what God thinks and feels about sex, he's especially egregious towards women, if a woman is found to not be a virgin her wedding night she should be stoned to death, if a woman is caught being raped she should marry her rapist, etc. Even the 10 commandments lists adultery but doesn't say "Don't rape", why is that?

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23-04-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
SitaSky Wrote:You didn't answer my questions, why does God ask for his followers, people like you who make a covenant with him to only have sex the ways he demands?
Why does he care who you have sex with and how?
I don't know any instruction of God on how to have sex and I am the one who choose with whom I have sex.
The only instruction (law) is that I have sex in marriage.
Why do God's covenant people have sex in marriage only? In order to understand this someone has to know and understand why God sends us on earth. What is the purpose of mortality(this life)?
Do you know?
SitaSky Wrote:The Bible is clear about what God thinks and feels about sex, he's especially egregious towards women, if a woman is found to not be a virgin her wedding night she should be stoned to death, if a woman is caught being raped she should marry her rapist, etc.
I didn't live in those times so I can not fully understand why would God gave this kind of laws to His ancient covenant people. I don't understand their mentality, culture and traditions. So, it would be unfair to give my opinion.
Because those laws do NOT apply in the 21st century I don't really care about them.

SitaSky Wrote:Even the 10 commandments lists adultery but doesn't say "Don't rape", why is that?
rape is adultery.

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23-04-2016, 03:44 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation.
(23-04-2016 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  I didn't live in those times so I can not fully understand why would God gave this kind of laws to His ancient covenant people. I don't understand their mentality, culture and traditions. So, it would be unfair to give my opinion.
Because those laws do NOT apply in the 21st century I don't really care about them.

Yes we should all be glad we don't live in the Bronze age when women were considered second class citizens who were their father's property and then got married and were their husband's property. Why would the men who wrote the Bible say that God wanted certain rules to be followed by his people? Why do those laws no longer matter in the 21st century? Does God change his mind as human beings progress and their social norms and morality change? That seems like a God who doesn't exist and strangely defines goodness and even his own work and abilities differently depending on the people who believe in him.

(23-04-2016 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  
SitaSky Wrote:Even the 10 commandments lists adultery but doesn't say "Don't rape", why is that?
rape is adultery.

Rape isn't sex, it's a physical assault that's more about power than pleasure. It's an abusive act, even a husband can rape his wife, is that ok? He's not having sex with another woman so it's not technically adultery. If a man is not married and he rapes a woman who is not married is that wrong? If so, why doesn't God say it's wrong and instead insist that the victim marry her attacker?

I'm not going to sit here and believe when God said "Don't commit adultery" he meant rape was included in that, he would've said "Oh and don't rape." There are many verses in the Bible that condone rape so not only did he not mention it in his super important rules but he doesn't even see it as a real issue. He only sees it as a crime when the rapist is caught in the act because a woman's word that she was assaulted meant nothing back then.

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23-04-2016, 03:47 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 01:10 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-04-2016 10:01 AM)Leo Wrote:  The only difference between me and religious dudes is that I'm honest. 99% percent of religious dudes that claim to never masturbate and watch porn are big time liars.
I would agree with this statement. But I can understand why you are honest and they are not. When you believe that what you do is right you don't have to hide it. But when you believe that what you do is wrong you WILL want to hide it.
I assume you are not perfect man. Smile

I'm not perfect but you can't expect much from lions. I don't have free will. We are horny creatures by nature. We are very similar creatures. Humans are horny by nature and humans doesn't have free will. Humans have the illusion of free will.

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23-04-2016, 03:50 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 03:47 PM)Leo Wrote:  I'm not perfect but you can't expect much from lions. I don't have free will. We are horny creatures by nature.
Laugh out loadLaugh out load
God made lions this way for a reason. Yes
P.S. no one has free will. I don't even know what "free will" is.

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23-04-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 03:44 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  Yes we should all be glad we don't live in the Bronze age when women were considered second class citizens who were their father's property and then got married and were their husband's property.
I think both of us can agree on that.
(23-04-2016 03:44 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  Why would the men who wrote the Bible say that God wanted certain rules to be followed by his people?
Because God told them to say this.
(23-04-2016 03:44 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  Why do those laws no longer matter in the 21st century? Does God change his mind as human beings progress and their social norms and morality change? That seems like a God who doesn't exist and strangely defines goodness and even his own work and abilities differently depending on the people who believe in him.
Different reasons why some laws are no longer matter but new laws are matter.
Many of the laws that were practiced in times of OT were given to people who were NOT ready for higher laws. They rejected higher laws. God can not give higher laws to those who can not understand them or refuses to obey them.
Before God gave primitive laws of Moses His covenant people had higher laws of the Gospel.
God has to work with the material that He has.

(23-04-2016 03:44 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  
(23-04-2016 03:21 PM)Alla Wrote:  rape is adultery.
Rape isn't sex, it's a physical assault that's more about power than pleasure. It's an abusive act, even a husband can rape his wife, is that ok? He's not having sex with another woman so it's not technically adultery.
10 commandments are not the only laws of God. Any abusive act is wrong and evil. So, rape is an abusive act and it is wrong/evil act.
(23-04-2016 03:44 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  If a man is not married and he rapes a woman who is not married is that wrong? If so, why doesn't God say it's wrong and instead insist that the victim marry her attacker?
I'm not going to sit here and believe when God said "Don't commit adultery" he meant rape was included in that, he would've said "Oh and don't rape." There are many verses in the Bible that condone rape so not only did he not mention it in his super important rules but he doesn't even see it as a real issue. He only sees it as a crime when the rapist is caught in the act because a woman's word that she was assaulted meant nothing back then.
If 10 commandments were the only God's laws I would ask the same question: "why didn't God mention "rape"?
Where does it say that 10 commandments are super important rules?

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23-04-2016, 04:09 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
Leave marshmellows alone.

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23-04-2016, 04:22 PM (This post was last modified: 23-04-2016 04:33 PM by Leo.)
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(23-04-2016 03:47 PM)Leo Wrote:  I'm not perfect but you can't expect much from lions. I don't have free will. We are horny creatures by nature.
Laugh out loadLaugh out load
God made lions this way for a reason. Yes
P.S. no one has free will. I don't even know what "free will" is.

Seriously what's a god? Lions doesn't have this god concept in our minds. We are born , we eat and we shit. We sleep and reproduce . We also fight for dominance of territories. Let's check our similarities with humans: we eat and shit ( check ) , we are mammals (check ) , we are born and die (check ) , we fight for dominance of territories and resources ( check ) , we are predators (check ), we are horny (check ) , we use violence for surviving ( check ). Our societies are based in hierarchies(check). We mate ( check ). See there isn't much difference between humans and lions.

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23-04-2016, 04:22 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 04:09 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Leave marshmellows alone.

Blasphemy! you must roast the marshmallows!

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23-04-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(23-04-2016 04:22 PM)Leo Wrote:  
(23-04-2016 03:50 PM)Alla Wrote:  Laugh out loadLaugh out load
God made lions this way for a reason. Yes
P.S. no one has free will. I don't even know what "free will" is.

Seriously what's a god? Lions doesn't have this god concept in our minds. We are born , we eat and we shit. We sleep and reproduce . We also fight for dominance of territories. Let's check out similarities with humans: we eat and shit ( check ) , we are mammals (check ) , we are born and die (check ) , we fight for dominance of territories and resources ( check ) , we are predators (check ), we are horny (check ) , we use violence for surviving ( check ).

And mate.

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