Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
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21-04-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(20-04-2016 01:49 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(20-04-2016 09:15 AM)Alla Wrote:  If pornography is an addiction it can become a problem in life. It can lead to this:
it destroys families. Family is the most important unit of the society according to LDS Doctrine.

You are so damned naive. My husband and I watch porn together and we've been married 25 years. And we aren't unusual in this regard either. Couples watching porn is pretty common.

OK. All I said that porn can be addictive and this addiction can destroy families. I didn't say that it is always the case.
LDS don't believe in gambling.
When we know that something can be harmful we believe in this: "stay away, do not risk."

But again, LDS CHURCH doesn't make wars on anything. LDS Church teaches its members principles and then we all make our own choices: to live by those principles or don't.

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21-04-2016, 10:25 AM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(20-04-2016 12:53 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  I understand that most theists believe that sex is "sacred" and for procreation but what about just for fun?
Sex for fun between husband and wife is also sacred and sanctified by God.
I thought that sex should be for fun all the time. But sometimes babies might come out of this.
Sex without fun must be horrible.
(20-04-2016 12:53 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  "Sex between husband and wife is sanctified by God!" then what about all the other sex? Is it damned by God?
It is not sanctified by God. If you didn't make covenants with God(if you don't belong to His Church) you are not damned for having sex outside marriage. It(other sex) is NOT sanctified but it is not damned either.
But if I make covenant with God and PROMISE Him to keep His laws and then I break my promise it is different story.
So, you are fine Thumbsup as long as you don't break your promises/covenants.
I assume you didn't make any covenants with God. Smile

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21-04-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 10:25 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(20-04-2016 12:53 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  I understand that most theists believe that sex is "sacred" and for procreation but what about just for fun?
Sex for fun between husband and wife is also sacred and sanctified by God.

How about sex for fun between gay people?

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21-04-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 11:12 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 10:25 AM)Alla Wrote:  Sex for fun between husband and wife is also sacred and sanctified by God.

How about sex for fun between gay people?
It is not sanctified by God but it is not damned either. People who are not covenant with God do NOT know His laws. So, they do NOT sin. They transgress. There is the difference.
Only those who break covenants sin.

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21-04-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 11:23 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 11:12 AM)morondog Wrote:  How about sex for fun between gay people?
It is not sanctified by God but it is not damned either. People who are not covenant with God do NOT know His laws. So, they do NOT sin. They transgress. There is the difference.
Only those who break covenants sin.

If that is the logic, then why teach your children what is in your book? By definition, humans are imperfect, filthy, and prone to sin. If you never spread the idea of sin, you bypass hell. Just saying.Laugh out loadDrinking Beverage
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21-04-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 12:08 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 11:23 AM)Alla Wrote:  It is not sanctified by God but it is not damned either. People who are not covenant with God do NOT know His laws. So, they do NOT sin. They transgress. There is the difference.
Only those who break covenants sin.

If that is the logic, then why teach your children what is in your book? By definition, humans are imperfect, filthy, and prone to sin. If you never spread the idea of sin, you bypass hell. Just saying.Laugh out loadDrinking Beverage

Yeah. Ignorance is bliss. Just become ignorant about all kinds of things and then everything should be ok.

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21-04-2016, 12:26 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 10:25 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(20-04-2016 12:53 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  I understand that most theists believe that sex is "sacred" and for procreation but what about just for fun?
Sex for fun between husband and wife is also sacred and sanctified by God.
I thought that sex should be for fun all the time. But sometimes babies might come out of this.
Sex without fun must be horrible.
(20-04-2016 12:53 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  "Sex between husband and wife is sanctified by God!" then what about all the other sex? Is it damned by God?
It is not sanctified by God. If you didn't make covenants with God(if you don't belong to His Church) you are not damned for having sex outside marriage. It(other sex) is NOT sanctified but it is not damned either.
But if I make covenant with God and PROMISE Him to keep His laws and then I break my promise it is different story.
So, you are fine Thumbsup as long as you don't break your promises/covenants.
I assume you didn't make any covenants with God. Smile

I got news for you. We looked at a lot of porn before we were married and we had a massive amount of premarital sex. It was fun.

Most people have premarital sex, my dear. You're living in a Disney movie.

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21-04-2016, 01:23 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 12:21 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 12:08 PM)Birdguy1979 Wrote:  If that is the logic, then why teach your children what is in your book? By definition, humans are imperfect, filthy, and prone to sin. If you never spread the idea of sin, you bypass hell. Just saying.Laugh out loadDrinking Beverage

Yeah. Ignorance is bliss. Just become ignorant about all kinds of things and then everything should be ok.

This is actually a fun concept.
Wouldnt humanity have been better off not knowing to begin with?
It reminds me, along with the mormon spin, back when i was LDS, we used to muse about how you could get a fast track ticket to heaven by paying a hitman before you were baptized to kill you after you were baptized. Slate is clean, no sin, free lunch.
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21-04-2016, 02:49 PM
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(21-04-2016 10:13 AM)Alla Wrote:  But again, LDS CHURCH doesn't make wars on anything. LDS Church teaches its members principles and then we all make our own choices: to live by those principles or don't.

And you'd never try and impose your beliefs on anybody else by shunning them for example. Nope, the LDS isn't coercive that way. [/sarcasm]

(21-04-2016 10:25 AM)Alla Wrote:  It is not sanctified by God. If you didn't make covenants with God(if you don't belong to His Church) you are not damned for having sex outside marriage. It(other sex) is NOT sanctified but it is not damned either.

Good. I don't want God in my sex. Entirely the wrong sort for a threesome.

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21-04-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Mormons Declare War On Masturbation. Porn is apparently at epidemic levels in Utah.
(21-04-2016 11:23 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 11:12 AM)morondog Wrote:  How about sex for fun between gay people?
It is not sanctified by God but it is not damned either. People who are not covenant with God do NOT know His laws. So, they do NOT sin. They transgress. There is the difference.
Only those who break covenants sin.

but i want me some damned sex! guess i'll settle for some unsanctified sex. just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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