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06-02-2014, 09:18 AM
My conversion...
(back story up to this point) I had lived a hard life up to that point and I was angry with God. I blamed him for everything bad that happened to me. Then I thought I had found a fatal flaw in Christianity. It had to do with Hell. I thought it was so stupid to threaten the dead with Hell. I mean how can one burn a spirit? Then I started with the taunts and challenges to God because I knew if He existed He couldn't be all that He was cracked up to be if He was sending spirits/ghosts to a lake of fire.

I use to stop breathing while I slept, and I remember one time I was a sleep, but realized I was fairly lucid, but at the same time I could not wake, Which was an issue because I had stopped breathing.. Then I realized I was no longer in my room but at my judgment. I saw a being and immediately fell flat on the ground before Him and he told me not to be afraid and to rise and follow him. I did, to a line of people.(not a long line maybe 10) I saw Jesus welcoming people by name, and again I fell flat on the ground, and my life's events started to recount in my Head. (Before He even got to me)

When He told my neighbor Welcome my good and faithful servant, I knew right then, that was a close as I would ever come to hearing those words spoken to me, then the regret/deep despair begin to sink in. All of scripture made sense, and I knew then my life did not measure up to the standards of being a member of the body. At that point there was nothing I could say. No defense for what i did.

I was helped up and for the briefest of moments I saw in His eyes a glimmer, of what of an eternity of Love with Him could have been, then I saw heart break and disappointment in Him, Then I heard "away from me you wicked servant, I never knew you.."

My heart dropped, Then I pleaded: Lord lord give me one more chance..I fell to His feet and clinched as tightly as I could. swearing allegiance and love. I just needed another chance to prove it.

then either the ground gave way or I was thrown into the pit. I just remember falling into a black nothingness, as I traveled away from the light I felt myself being consumed by this Black almost like Hot tar. It was not fire but it invoked the same response as being burned. The panic and hysteria of being consumed lit every nerve ending as if it was being burned by the hottest flame. I could see nothing but heard a great yelling and many many groans of pain from every direction, But only bearly because of my own groans, and screams. (Through all of that I had a sense that these laments were not all human.) All the while falling and being in a great state of panic and pain. Fire, panic and pain are not even strong enough words to describe the intensity of the experience.

That's why when i talk to people about Hell I say the reason the bible uses fire to describe hell it is because Being consumed by fire is the closest thing we can relate to when we are thrown into the void of Hell. Even so fire doesn't even come close. If given the choice I would rather be burned for an eternity by what we know to be fire than experience "Hell fire" ever again.

As the last glimmer of the light was fading The reality of eternity began to set in and all hope quickly faded away. I saw the next step of my journey, and that was in the face of increasing despair, the luxury of the control we have over minds, was soon to be taken from me as well...

It was then I felt a hand grab me, and I began to ascend. the being that pulled me out of the pit told me that this was Only Gates of Hell and what I experiences was only a glimmer of what was to come. He told me that the rest of "this life" was my second Chance that I had asked for, and warned me that all that I experienced awaits me, if I did not know Jesus.

When I awoke I had sweat an outline of my entire body into my mattress and through my comforter.

The experience of Hell didn't change my life. It was the glimmer of an eternity with the one I love with all of my being did. I realized that Hell is not an incentive for Heaven. Hell is simply the absents of God and all that He created. Being members of Creation We literally burn with desire to be apart of it and with God.

This is what prompts me to ask people, If the descriptions of Heaven and Hell were somehow confused in the Past, and Heaven was a fiery pit (But God lived there.) And Hell was what we know to be Paradise, but God was absent, then would you still want to goto Heaven (The Fiery pit) and burn forever with God?

Those who seek Heaven as their just reward or Choose Heaven because they fear Hell don't understand what Heaven is.

Heaven is being with God no matter what it looks like.
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06-02-2014, 09:26 AM
RE: My conversion...
Nice story. Needs more dragons and vampires though.
You do know of course the ancient Hebrews did not believe in heaven and hell.
Just more proof of your incompetence.

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06-02-2014, 09:28 AM
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** Impulse thinks to self:
Do I accuse him of fabricating a story?
Do I suggest he see a psychiatrist for hallucinations?
Do I just outright state how ridiculous it is?
Nah, nevermind. Not worth it.
**

**Leaves**

"Religion has caused more misery to all of mankind in every stage of human history than any other single idea." --Madalyn Murray O'Hair
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06-02-2014, 09:29 AM
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“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.”~Mark Twain
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06-02-2014, 09:29 AM
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Lack of oxygen to the brain = hallucinations. Dodgy
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06-02-2014, 09:31 AM
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(06-02-2014 09:26 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Nice story. Needs more dragons and vampires though.
You do know of course the ancient Hebrews did not believe in heaven and hell.
Just more proof of your incompetence.


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06-02-2014, 09:33 AM
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Do you think that your dream was a real vision as it happened on another plane of existence or do you think that it was symbolic?

The reason I ask is that my husband had to calculate how many people would be at the pearly gates when he wrote his fiction "Promoted beyond glory: afterlife". He came up with a figure of roughly 100 people dying every minute.

Do you think that Jesus appears simultaneously in different rooms to greet people or were you lucky to have met him rather than a bog-standard angel?

I have to admit though, I certainly don't envy the job Jesus has to do. It sounds like it could get rather tedious after 2,000 years.
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06-02-2014, 09:37 AM
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“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.”~Mark Twain
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06-02-2014, 09:37 AM
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

If Jesus died for our sins, why is there still sin? If man was created from dust, why is there still dust? If Americans came from Europe, why are there still Europeans?
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06-02-2014, 09:41 AM
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(06-02-2014 09:18 AM)Drich Wrote:  The panic and hysteria of being consumed lit every nerve ending as if it was being burned by the hottest flame.
Question: How is it that nerves are part of the physical body, but you somehow had them in spiritual form (supposedly)? Drinking Beverage

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