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19-08-2016, 11:31 AM
My cover may have been blown.
I think 6 years isn't a bad run.

My mother-in-law was visiting my wife the other day and asked to use her computer. When she opening it up she saw TTA Forum up and active. As I was on it just the day before.

From what my wife said she was very upset. And confronted my wife accusing her of being an Atheist. (which she is not). She did her best to explain why the webpage was up by saying "CS just likes looking at all religions. He doesn't have any ill wills for any." which seemed to have calmed her down. For at least the time being. From what my wife said she already put two and two together to relise i'm not Catholic as when I talk about my old religion it's always in the past tense.

I've done my best to avoid and god discussions with them which is often very hard. 4th of July they starting ranting a raving about how Muslims where a cult and not a real religion. I had to disagree, and did my bet to explain the aspects and qualifications for what a region was. Opinions where not changed.

When the famliy praise i bow my head and think about other things. If they talk about how great religion is I throw an old story I remember about my days in church in.

But as I feared her mothers opion is strong in my wife. And the main reason I've been avoiding this conversation was to protect her. Seeing how upset her mother got, made her upset. And felt because I don't believe means I don't believe in our marriage. She felt God brought us together. And that we're soul mates. If we met 8 years ago I might have said the same. She brought up that when I said our marriage vows I mustn't have meant it. I reminded her that our vows were secular and didn't touch upon god. And even if it did, the togetherness part was the greater aspect of it.

After some talking I may have put her mind at ease. I even presented her with a challenge on finding evidence that would prove her god. To try to convince me that her god was real. 50% of it is personal experiences and the other 50% is others personal experiences. Her grandfather after going threw open heart surgery said he saw jesus, and that was good enough for her. I only suttly touched upon that he most likely was under a great deal of pain medication, and that other people had made simaler claims with other deity's.

I hope that she takes me up on my challenge. (thou i suspect she wont) and learns a little more about the history of her religion. She's not stupid just very ignorant with a touch of naive.

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19-08-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
You sowed a seed. Time to sit back and see if it grows.

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19-08-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
After my cover was blown (with my parents) I first got the silent treatment then they ignored it and hoped if no one brought it up it would go away, and it has in the sense that no one talks about it.

“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.”~Mark Twain
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19-08-2016, 03:25 PM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
I just learned that because they're on TTA, Aliza, Kingschosen, and Shai Hulud are all atheists.

Neat!

A simpler explanation would be that you enjoy debating against atheists.... which is not a lie. Smile

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19-08-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
I won't say anything. If something comes up i'll just lie. It's an easy enough cover.

"Do you believe in a god?"

"Yep."

"Ok."

Quick and painless. I just wish I didn't have to. I don't feel it to be a honest answer. I've also thought of just twisting the truth to not give her a straight answer. Much like Rocket said.

I also thought about just telling it's what I use to get people to play D&D. but I think that would just open another can of worms.

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20-08-2016, 01:08 PM
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Sorry to hear things are getting rough because of TTA being right there for them to see. Sad

Sadly, RocketSurgeon's joking aside, I cleared my browser history when relatives visited, not to hide porn, but so they'd not see that I was coming here and make assumptions such as the ones that happened to you.

Need to think of a witty signature.
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20-08-2016, 02:34 PM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
Geez, Shai, that's terrible. Sad

What a world, what a world.

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20-08-2016, 02:37 PM
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(20-08-2016 01:08 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  Sorry to hear things are getting rough because of TTA being right there for them to see. Sad

Sadly, RocketSurgeon's joking aside, I cleared my browser history when relatives visited, not to hide porn, but so they'd not see that I was coming here and make assumptions such as the ones that happened to you.

So hiding the porn was just a bonus?

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20-08-2016, 02:44 PM (This post was last modified: 20-08-2016 02:50 PM by cactus.)
RE: My cover may have been blown.
I have a flash drive with a portable Firefox and Chrome, which I use for browsing atheist forums and such. I use it to listen to atheist podcasts in the car, too. I never have to worry about clearing my browsing history. I just hide my flash drive. I keep that shit well hidden, too.

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20-08-2016, 04:22 PM
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It's so sad that simply having a forum open can cause such drama.

I am happy for you that you were able to talk to your wife but I also hope for you that her mom will calm down as well and that if not, your wife feels safe to talk to you about it again.

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