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20-08-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
(20-08-2016 01:08 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  Sorry to hear things are getting rough because of TTA being right there for them to see. Sad

Sadly, RocketSurgeon's joking aside, I cleared my browser history when relatives visited, not to hide porn, but so they'd not see that I was coming here and make assumptions such as the ones that happened to you.

How terrible we live in a world where you have to hide your porn.

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20-08-2016, 08:38 PM (This post was last modified: 21-08-2016 12:01 PM by Thumpalumpacus.)
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I am so glad I don't have to deal with this sort of shit.
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20-08-2016, 08:46 PM
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(20-08-2016 08:38 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  I am so.glad I don't have to deal with this sort of shit.

^ Me too!

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20-08-2016, 09:26 PM
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(20-08-2016 02:34 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  Geez, Shai, that's terrible. Sad

What a world, what a world.

Thanks, but I imagine it's far worse in the case of how Cactus has to use a flash drive with Chrome to look at the boards, or poor Commonsensei dealing with this in a marriage setting where it's caused such bad side effects. Sad At least for me, it was mainly just to not have minor family drama with clergy in law, and not one who will be in The Clergy Project any time soon.

(20-08-2016 02:37 PM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  So hiding the porn was just a bonus?
Laugh out load
Please...that was thrown on a flash drive and put behind a bookcase. Sad world indeed, as Organic Chemist says.

Need to think of a witty signature.
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25-08-2016, 01:09 PM
RE: My cover may have been blown.
(19-08-2016 04:16 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  I won't say anything. If something comes up i'll just lie. It's an easy enough cover.

"Do you believe in a god?"

"Yep."

"Ok."

Quick and painless. I just wish I didn't have to. I don't feel it to be a honest answer. I've also thought of just twisting the truth to not give her a straight answer. Much like Rocket said.

I also thought about just telling it's what I use to get people to play D&D. but I think that would just open another can of worms.

I feel your pain, I've been having to lie as well. I haven't been going to church for months but my family thinks I am.
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25-08-2016, 01:14 PM
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(25-08-2016 01:09 PM)ResidentEvilFan Wrote:  
(19-08-2016 04:16 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  I won't say anything. If something comes up i'll just lie. It's an easy enough cover.

"Do you believe in a god?"

"Yep."

"Ok."

Quick and painless. I just wish I didn't have to. I don't feel it to be a honest answer. I've also thought of just twisting the truth to not give her a straight answer. Much like Rocket said.

I also thought about just telling it's what I use to get people to play D&D. but I think that would just open another can of worms.

I feel your pain, I've been having to lie as well. I haven't been going to church for months but my family thinks I am.
And I thought that atheists in Poland have it bad. But while I hear a lot of nonsense about atheism I don't have to hide anything: my family and friends know that I'm unbeliever and no one really care.

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25-08-2016, 03:16 PM (This post was last modified: 25-08-2016 03:19 PM by Commonsensei.)
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My youngest brother know's, and he's an atheist as well. My younger brother, I think he's on the fence, I know his wife's a catholic. My father probably doesn't care, he never went to church when I was growing up, and I don't think I've ever heard him talk about religion. My mother only knows half the truth she knows I'm agnostic just not agnostic atheist, and has made statements in the past that at least i'm not an atheist. As far as my famliy goes I know i can be who i am and they'll still love me.

My wifes famliy is another story. I know they like me, but to put it gently. They see me as the smart one in the group. Which is rather upsetting for me because i know i'm not the brightest guy. Not idiocracy level but that kind of feeling. They also demonstrated to be pretty harsh when over the littlest things. They eventually forgive each other but during the time anger it's pretty unsettling. My mother-in-law put my wife threw hell when she first moved in with me. Saying things like she was abandoning her, and that if she wanted to leave so bad she might as well not talk to her. Sometimes calling her late at night just to tell her how disappointed she was of her. Making my wife cry uncontrollably. Now mind you we moved across the street, less then a block away. And my wife (girlfriend at the time) and I had been dating for two years, and had talked about moving in with each other for 6 months. Did i fail to mention my wife was 30 at the time! So that is the type of shit she had to deal with when it was a petty little thing. I can only imagine what would happen if they found out she married an atheist and knew about it.

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25-08-2016, 04:11 PM
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(19-08-2016 11:31 AM)Commonsensei Wrote:  After some talking I may have put her mind at ease. I even presented her with a challenge on finding evidence that would prove her god. To try to convince me that her god was real. 50% of it is personal experiences and the other 50% is others personal experiences. Her grandfather after going threw open heart surgery said he saw jesus, and that was good enough for her. I only suttly touched upon that he most likely was under a great deal of pain medication, and that other people had made simaler claims with other deity's.

I hope that she takes me up on my challenge. (thou i suspect she wont) and learns a little more about the history of her religion. She's not stupid just very ignorant with a touch of naive.
I don't have any religious stories, but my in-laws are into Traditional Chinese Medicine and try to push that philosophy on to me and wife with regards to how we feed and take care of our children.
Generally I just smile when they start talking about hot, warm and cold energy.
But when they "told me off" for feeding my kids tap water or toasted cheese sandwiches, I then spoke my mind. They said that toasted cheese sandwhich is not good at is has hot energy because of the browning. I was like, "I don't believe that stuff, it's not real". I actually think they were a bit shocked that I have complete disregard for TCM. It's pretty much ingrained into their daily life, their diet, everything. As far as I can tell Chinese see TCM as a national treasure. They are very proud of their long cultural history and traditions, and me disregarding TCM could perhaps be seen as an "insult" to thier culture and ultimately an insult to them.
I'm wondering if in your situation they might see your non belief as an insult to them and their proud family history of being Christians? Perhaps they feel betrayed that this has been kept as a secret from them for all these years. They may feel deceived.
At least in my situation, being white they probably assume that white folk don't accept TCM and so were able to overcome their "shock" quite quickly.

I'm not sure that it makes sense to challenge your inlaws to prove their religion is true. They are not qualified to do such a thing. In my case I certainly didn't challenge my inlaws to prove to me that TCM is real. I've since done a bit of research myself, gone to the library and read some books to get further understanding about TCM and its history and philosophies and what evidence their might be for its efficacy and mechanisms. Although I haven't told them I am doing this research and I am not taking it upon myself to point out what I have learnt (which BTW, doesn't support their stance). I don't need to explain myself to them. With regards to them, all I've done is to speak from the "I" rather than try to convince them that they are wrong. I've told them, respectfully, that I don't believe in TCM, I don't believe in qi, or meridians, or hot and cold energy.

Is it not possible to take a similar stance with your in-laws? Just tell them that you don't believe and be done with it. That you haven't had any personal spiritual experience. It would then be upto them to decide whether to be rude and cross the line by pushing the matter further with you. Or to respect you and your position and just leave it at that. I don't think it makes sense to provide a challenge, that would just be an impossible task and will create a rift. If they decide to take up the challenge then both sides are just going to get frustrated and annoyed at each other.
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25-08-2016, 04:59 PM
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since you don't want things to blow up more than they are, I would put aside arguing or trying to get them to see the lack of logic in their beliefs.

As much as you can, always remain calm. If they can upset you, it will be used against you.

Just keep reassuring your wife that you love her, you are the same person she married. Nothing has changed other than her mom.

As for mom, if you don't want to out yourself and deal with whatever comes and choose to drag this on longer, then tell her you have some doubts and you are seeking answers and the best people to challenge are those that don't believe. If your religion is true, it should be able to withstand the questions easily. No matter what those evil atheists say, her religion should be able to with stand it.


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25-08-2016, 05:51 PM
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Quote:She felt God brought us together.


Obviously that's bullshit.

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