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18-12-2014, 03:10 PM (This post was last modified: 18-12-2014 05:06 PM by Shadow Fox.)
My eng comp final
I guess I musta gotten a B on this or something. Was getting an A- in the class and when I looked at my final grade it was a B. Maybe I didn't format it right or something, never really did this APA thing before, also noticed a mistake or two when I went back it it...anyway, just wanted to share it with you all since it is on religion and stuff.

What ya think? Be Warned...its a TL.DR kinda thing

Many people make false claims of the persecution of Christians and other religions. However, there is no persecution of religion anywhere in America, only persecution from religion and the religious. The persecution of the Lesbian, Gay, Bi, and Transsexual community or the LGBT, is entirely religious in not only its origins, but in its’ entirety as well. If you do not know this already, you are either still very young, or simply have not been paying attention to the world around you. From the bible, which most of the persecution in America comes from, we can read in the book of Leviticus 20:13 which many Christians read from clearly states that if two people of the same sex have relations that they must be put to death. Leviticus is only found in the Jewish Old Testament and yet, while Christians desperately cry that the New Testament is not the same as the old one and make arguments for what the New Testament is about, they completely miss the point that much of their book is based on the old. Much of what they preach only comes from the old. The 10 commandments and Genesis which are both directly from the Old Testament are two examples of this. There exists a plethora of anti-gay verses in the bible (Lev 20:13 for example), and because of these verses, people have used them to maliciously persecute many gay people and to also execute many more in certain parts of the world. When you put that kind of ideology into the hands of idiots, you have a recipe for disaster. In many cases here in America, the religious will use the bible as a form of mind control resulting in harm to a countless number of people.

Once you have someone convinced that they are going to go somewhere when they die, and then you convince them that only the one sect of the one religion you are from is their only way to ensure that their afterlife ( which you convinced them is already in jeopardy) is the only possible truth. You will have a power over someone like no other kind of brainwashing could ever accomplish. This has driven countless to insanity, depravity, and immoral acts in the name of holy figures and ideals. Let’s take the actions performed at the pray the gay away camps that are all around America right now. From suicides to shock therapy, survivors tell horrific accounts of the depravity of these camps trying to save their immortal souls. The following is a section of an article I found. “'I have an older friend who went to one because his father was disappointed in him for not being "normal" one said. Apparently one of the tests involved taping electrical pads to his testicles and forcing him to watch gay porn. If he got an erection, then he was zapped.”(Johnson Liam 2014)
From this article, other visitors of the camp revealed the camp used brain washing techniques to convince them their homosexuality was the result of a former trauma from an abusive father or that they did not form a close bond with their mothers. Many of these camps lie to the government for what they truly are. One masqueraded itself to the government for a Church camp for unruly teenagers. Through torture, brainwashing, lies, propaganda and suicide, this is what gay cure camps do to people and hope to accomplish in making people choose to be straight again. Today, we know very well that sexuality is not a choice. If you disagree with me

dear reader, than I am going to ask you a series of questions. Since I already know how you are going to answer, let’s move on. Have you ever felt sexually aroused before? When you felt sexually aroused, did you think inside of your head using your own voice inside of your head telling yourself that you are going to become sexually aroused before it actually happened in the most literal sense possible of what I just asked you? (Confusing question but just think about it) When you see a picture of the sex you are attracted to, do you do this in the same manner mentioned above before becoming sexually attracted? Have you ever once in your entire life walked down the street or in a store and saw someone you thought was really attractive? Did you look at that person to say you yourself inside of your head that I “want” to become sexually or passively attracted to this person before you believed they were attractive? Here is the answers you just gave me in order of the questions I asked, you answered Yes, No, No, Yes, and No. Which means I just proved to you that sexual attraction is not a choice. Being gay, bi, transsexual, or lesbian is not a choice. Only a fool cannot understand that after this flawless argument present before you. When someone sees something they are attracted too, it is an inborn nature, and not something that simply choose. Yet, despite our inborn natures, the religious and Christianity most of all persecutes these people with claims of immorality, and accusations of them having committed acts that are seen to them as deplorable people in need to be saved from their inborn nature that which causes no harm to anyone.

The anti-gay movement has been going on for thousands of years. Even famous television actors use their religion to spout their anti-gay beliefs on the world. One such homophobic individual is Phil Robertson. On the T.V show Duck Dynasty Phil is very famous and controversial at this time for his public homophobic quotes to the press which he stated, “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong. Sin becomes fine," he later added. “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

As well as saying later on in another review “I’m as much of a homophobe as Jesus was. People who are participating in homosexual behavior, they need to know that I love them.”
Robertson also attempted to justify his worldview by claiming that The Bible contains the only tangible answer to the "question" of homosexuality. (Sieczkowski Cavan – Huffington Post 2013).
Even the pope has stated that the threat of homosexuality was just as important as the threat of global warming which is a real issue we face today (Wikipedia). People in African countries are put to death daily on homosexual witch hunts in Uganda and in other places like Iraq. It is without a doubt that the persecution of the LGBT community and those who are LGBT are persecuted only as the result of religion. The two biggest contenders is Islam and Christianity

most of all. Without those religions, the persecution simply would not exist. Perhaps the most famous haters of gays is the Westboro Baptist Church. Whom is responsible for their protests of the funerals of soldiers, The Boston massacre victim’s funerals and many other people have also been picketed. They hold rainbow colored signs that say “god hates fags” and “thank god for dead soldiers”. They sing and chant and make a celebration of the dead in the faces of mourners. They do this because gays in America are not given the death penalty. There is also a very famous video on YouTube with over seven million views of a young man coming out to his parents of his homosexuality and is assaulted in the video by the parents. I highly suggest you check it out, but I warn you, it is horrific (Ryan Regina). The following is the link you can find the video at. Or you can search under How not to react when your child tells you that he's gay, you should find the video under that.

Now my readers, we have come to a much more entertaining section. In this section will be the persecution and slander made against Atheists and the secular communities of America. Theists and many misguided agnostics claim time and time again about the persecution of Christians in America, or they will tell you that Atheists are belligerent and confrontational, and want a Stalin government where religion is outlawed. Where no one is allowed to believe in any religion. These of course are entirely false. The funniest thing of all is when a Christian tries to claim that they are a minority in the country full of atheists. HA! Let me say that once more my dear reader, HA! Atheists make up roughly 5% of the United States population and probably a little more. Christians currently run roughly 78% of the population with everything else making up the rest. In the United States, Atheists are the most persecuted, mistrusted, and hated group in this country. We are hated and distrusted more than, Muslims, Westboro Baptist Church, and even rapists, child molesters and killers. (Cline Austin 2014).

It is literally impossible for an openly Atheist President to ever become elected into office. In the following states of Arkansas, Maryland, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas are forbidden by unenforceable laws to be able to hold any public office of any kind within those states (Bulger Mathew). These laws are completely unconstitutional, and yet Christians are allowed to make them because Jesus Bible God Christ Bible Jesus, that’s why! (At least that is what I like to think goes on in the heads of some of the Christians out there). I really have no idea how they are allowed to make laws that so blatantly disregards the constitution.
We have 7 States that have unenforceable laws that prohibit atheists from taking office, there are 13 countries that revoke citizenship for, deny marriage of, and even kill atheists. 53% of Americans are least likely to vote for us, favoring a candidate who has smoked pot, never held office or had an extramarital affair, and 49% of Americans would be unhappy if a family member married an Atheist (Hafiz Yasmine 2013). A very interesting article from (Christina Greta) describes the 10 scariest states to be an atheist. One includes Pennsylvania, where an atheist vet marching in the Veterans Day parade was booed, jeered, insulted, and cursed at for being an atheist. Not holding any anti religion signs, just a small simple atheist soldier sign. He was yelled at and told he was going to be burnt in hell and had items thrown at him. In Idaho, atheist bill boards are violated on a regular basis. In another state, a child

received death threats from students as well as teachers and parents of other students for trying to cancel an illegal prayer that would be held during graduation ceremonies of his high school graduation. After being kicked out of the school graduation, and all the death threats happened, the prayer was held anyway (even after the American Civil Liberties Union, or ACLU, threatened to sue the school for breaking constitutional laws), then his parents than kicked him out of the house for good the day after graduation day in disgust because he was an atheist. He deserved to be left on the streets with no home or money. He was an atheist after all, right? Why would he deserve compassion, respect or love from his own F-king Parents? I hope you can see how abominable those statements were. That is exactly how many of the people in the US feel towards atheists. Perhaps one of the saddest I have heard about is the story of a man whose name I do not know which I will be quoting from part of the video. He is a youtuber who goes by the name of Grappling Ignorance. A man moved across the country to be a high school teacher. But he had a secret, a terrible secret. It was a very depressed area with dilapidated homes and ruined streets. The church was pristine and well kept. The students were rough. They were street gang members and drug dealers. He wanted something better for them and strived to make a difference and he did. However, that would not last for long. One of his students would eventually come across a YouTube video and recognize his voice.

This man, this teacher went online and had the audacity to talk about atheism and reason. On a place where he forced nothing onto anyone, done in the privacy of his own home. This man kept his YouTube channel separate from school and never told anyone at the school about it. They were good videos full of logic, he was civil and made great arguments. HOW, DARE, HE! News of his online channel spread like a virus. He was ridiculed, his classroom vandalized as they shouted prayers and insulted him. They drew on his chalkboard, telling him to go back where he came from with permanent black markers with the words surrounded with crosses. Some of the students asked if “it” was true. They could not bring themselves to say that damning word Atheist. The day before they greeted him with smiles and hope, the day after was met with contempt and disgust as he only says hello. They scoff him and ridiculed him. He was threatened with hellfire numerous times. They showed no remorse for impending suffering, rather they were gleeful about it. He would burn for disbelieving as if he deserved it, as if he could pick and choose what he believed in. This good man was condemned and shunned by convicted drug dealers and assailants, people he went out of his way to help them find a better path in life. They turned onto him without thinking twice. Soon, the teachers told him he had to remove his YouTube channel before the administration investigated, or he would certainly lose his job. All it would take is one drug dealer’s drunken angry parent who needs to sober up before being able to comprehend the horror of his precious child having an Atheist for a teacher. He is now called Grappling Ignorance on a new channel. Presumably he is no longer with that school and has other work elsewhere.
The persecution from religion is tremendous in this country. Some states like the enlightened state of Oregon are fine for us atheists to live in. However, the moment you move into any state that is more religious, especially the Bible belt states, it becomes a far different story. Another wonderful example

for those who are movie goers is the ever increasing surge of really terrible Christian movies that have come out lately. One recent film is named God’s Not Dead. In this movie, an atheist philosophy professor is portrayed as the bad guy. I cannot go into details too much without this turning into a review for the movie. However, I can say that this movie is essentially a direct attack on all atheists being immoral, bigoted, hateful of Christians and religion, not to mention many attacks done to Christianity’s rival religion Islam. The atheist character demands all this students declare that god does not exist in writing and the whole movie is filled with so many lies, slander, and logical fallacies in its arguments that it is essentially something only low intellect, bible thumping, republicans from the outskirts of normal society could ever possibly enjoy. In fact, nearly every single Christian movie that has come out in the last several years depicts the atheist as the villain. These movies are increasing in numbers each year. Furthermore, they have also begun making anti science movies as well. It is very clear that these “Christian” movies that are coming out in ever so much more abundance these day is furthering the hatred, distrust and general dislike of Atheists in the United States even further by pushing their lies onto ignorant and easily brainwashed audiences. Which sadly, to me, almost seems like it is the vast majority of the United States.

There are far too many examples, stories, and quotes from historical figures from a seemingly endless amount of sources to do this paper, or my argument any justice at all. The fact of the matter is that this subject is so long standing, so endless in every single culture that has ever existed, it leaves my task of convincing you or any other reader of anything to be an insurmountable task to overcome. I could not even begin to explain to you, or give examples of how religions are persecuted against by the vast majority throughout its entire history by other religions. All of the genocide, all of the wars, many of the executions, every animal or human sacrifice that has ever been made in history is the result of religion. I do wish I could give some examples, but alas, I fear my time for this paper has run out. I do hope you enjoyed some of the stories I have presented here within these few pages. Perhaps religious persecution against each other will be my next religious argument paper! Remember reader, there is no such thing as persecution of religion, only persecution from religion.

Kinda disappointed. This is the only time I have ever gotten a final grade of B in any of my writing classes. Kinda a really big let down really.


Forgot the refernces page, I referenced nearly everything. That is what intext citations were for.


Cline, A. (2014). University of Minnesota Study on American Attitudes Towards Atheists & Atheism. Retrieved from
Greta, C. (n.d.). 10 Scariest States to Be An Atheist. Retrieved from
Johnson, L. (2014). Victims of "gay Cure Camp reveal what really happens. Retrieved from
Sieczkowski, C. (2013). Duck Dynasty' Star Phil Robertson Makes Anti-Gay Remarks, Says Being Gay Is A Sin. N.p.: Huffington Post. Retrieved from
Wikipedia, . (n.d.). Violence against LGBT people. Retrieved from

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18-12-2014, 03:18 PM
RE: My eng comp final
Well, in your second sentence, I see a false claim in the form of absolutism which is a big no-no... so that might have something to do with it. Maybe.

I'll keep reading.

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18-12-2014, 03:31 PM
RE: My eng comp final
(18-12-2014 03:18 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Well, in your second sentence, I see a false claim in the form of absolutism which is a big no-no... so that might have something to do with it. Maybe.

I'll keep reading.


oh, dear me. I thought I changed that part before submitting it.. Facepalm
Was suppose to be same basic message with less absolutism. Classmate pointed it out the last couple of days before I made final changes. Ah well. I guess I can't be too surprised really. ( even though I am a little lol ). I only spent like 4 hours total writing it from rough draft to final. Mostly just wanted to share as some of you might like it.
Next time I do an argumentative which might be in comp II, I will be doing the ethics of copying and sharing.

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18-12-2014, 03:47 PM (This post was last modified: 18-12-2014 03:51 PM by Tomasia.)
RE: My eng comp final
(18-12-2014 03:10 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  Kinda disappointed. This is the only time I have ever gotten a final grade of B in any of my writing classes. Kinda a really big let down really.

I'm not too sure as to why you're surprised that you received a B. It read like a frustrated blog post, that you churned out the night before. Something you could have just as easily cut and pasted from any long forum post here. It lacked any references to any real sources of religious harm, relied too much on antidotal information, lacked any mention of counter perspectives, and was absent of any real depth.

Like homosexuality, is opposition to it simply a product of religious belief, or is it not that simple? In reality it's not that simple, even nations that lack religious opposition to homosexuality, have a hard time accepting it, like China, and India.

Your paper was too simplistic, too driven by your emotions and antidotal experiences. While it conveys why you feel the way you do, it doesn't make your case all that persuasive. It doesn't display any sharp critical thinking skills, or reasoning ability. A caricature of you would have been able to argue the same points.

It's a B paper, an A would have been a disservice to the hard working students who put in a considerable amount of work to produce their essays.
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