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04-11-2012, 03:41 PM
My eyes have been slowly opening.
I guess it was because of my oblivious nature towards others... lack of exposure... or just plain ignorance... but, I've been starting to notice something that you guys have been complaining about since Day 1.

It's not necessarily one thing... it's just an eclectic collection. I'm talking about the stuff that theists do or say that just make you "..."

I've always said, "Where are y'all finding these people? I've never come in contact with anyone like this."

I noticed it this morning in Sunday School. The lesson was on a believer's faith being "spoiled" per Paul in Colossians. The questioned was asked, "What are some things that can 'spoil' someone's faith and cause them to abandon it."

Someone said "knowledge". I sarcastically chuckled as I thought it was a joke; however, the rest of the class agreed. They were saying stuff like "Yeah, it seems that more smart people are atheists." and "The more education someone has the more likely they are going to abandon their faith."

They justified it by saying that the smarter people are arrogant and rely on themselves and not God.

We also had one guy say, "...and it seems like the smart people all believe in 'theory' of evolution."

I just sat there. Didn't say a word. I was sort of shocked.

How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?

I know sooner or later I'm going to be chased out with torches and pitchforks. The day is coming.

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04-11-2012, 03:56 PM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
Everybody sing:

"Thine eyes are seeing the glory of the going of the lord..."

Yes

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04-11-2012, 04:06 PM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  I guess it was because of my oblivious nature towards others... lack of exposure... or just plain ignorance... but, I've been starting to notice something that you guys have been complaining about since Day 1.

It's not necessarily one thing... it's just an eclectic collection. I'm talking about the stuff that theists do or say that just make you "..."

I've always said, "Where are y'all finding these people? I've never come in contact with anyone like this."

I noticed it this morning in Sunday School. The lesson was on a believer's faith being "spoiled" per Paul in Colossians. The questioned was asked, "What are some things that can 'spoil' someone's faith and cause them to abandon it."

Someone said "knowledge". I sarcastically chuckled as I thought it was a joke; however, the rest of the class agreed. They were saying stuff like "Yeah, it seems that more smart people are atheists." and "The more education someone has the more likely they are going to abandon their faith."

They justified it by saying that the smarter people are arrogant and rely on themselves and not God.

We also had one guy say, "...and it seems like the smart people all believe in 'theory' of evolution."

I just sat there. Didn't say a word. I was sort of shocked.

How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?

I know sooner or later I'm going to be chased out with torches and pitchforks. The day is coming.
Hi KC....mate you have warmed my heart. You are evidence that people can change.

I have spent many years studying the origins of Christianity, and I hope to share that knowledge with people to help free them from this toxic doctrine, so it always gives me pleasure to see someone starting to break free.
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04-11-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  I guess it was because of my oblivious nature towards others... lack of exposure... or just plain ignorance... but, I've been starting to notice something that you guys have been complaining about since Day 1.

It's not necessarily one thing... it's just an eclectic collection. I'm talking about the stuff that theists do or say that just make you "..."

I've always said, "Where are y'all finding these people? I've never come in contact with anyone like this."

I noticed it this morning in Sunday School. The lesson was on a believer's faith being "spoiled" per Paul in Colossians. The questioned was asked, "What are some things that can 'spoil' someone's faith and cause them to abandon it."

Someone said "knowledge". I sarcastically chuckled as I thought it was a joke; however, the rest of the class agreed. They were saying stuff like "Yeah, it seems that more smart people are atheists." and "The more education someone has the more likely they are going to abandon their faith."

They justified it by saying that the smarter people are arrogant and rely on themselves and not God.

We also had one guy say, "...and it seems like the smart people all believe in 'theory' of evolution."

I just sat there. Didn't say a word. I was sort of shocked.

How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?

I know sooner or later I'm going to be chased out with torches and pitchforks. The day is coming.
Something tells me a situation like this was inevitable.

So, is your next lesson plan going to be an attempt to reverse their stance on knowledge/intellect? I'd truly love to hear, nay SEE, the results of that. Sheer folly, says I!

EDIT: Also, good catch. Have you found yourself wondering if you've been surrounded by this all along and just hadn't noticed?

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04-11-2012, 04:16 PM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2012 04:27 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 03:56 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Everybody sing:

"Thine eyes are seeing the glory of the going of the lord..."

Yes

This shit's on you, brother, my hands are clean. That's what you get for not providing context. Tongue





Motherfucking Mormons do know how to sing, I'll give them that.

As it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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04-11-2012, 04:26 PM
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(04-11-2012 04:16 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 03:56 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Everybody sing:

"Thine eyes are seeing the glory of the going of the lord..."

Yes

This shit's on you, brother, my hands are clean. That's what you get for not providing context. Tongue

Give me a break Girly.
I posted that at 6am (my time)

Wadjawant? Blood?

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04-11-2012, 04:30 PM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2012 04:40 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 04:26 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 04:16 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  This shit's on you, brother, my hands are clean. That's what you get for not providing context. Tongue

Give me a break Girly.
I posted that at 6am (my time)

Wadjawant? Blood?

Nope, I wanted to listen to the Mormons to sing that song, I just didn't realize it. Big Grin ... It's all good.

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Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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04-11-2012, 05:01 PM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
Fuck you think was gonna happen, hanging around a bunch of immoral heathens? You're fuckered now, KC. Tongue

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04-11-2012, 05:04 PM
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(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?

When has religious belief ever required any of the above qualities?

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04-11-2012, 05:08 PM
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That's similar to our reaction to you, y'know. Except not knowledge, but critical thinking. Consider


However, I am stunned that you didn't realize with whom you were associating. Just stunned. Shocking

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