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05-11-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 05:04 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?

When has religious belief ever required any of the above qualities?
It doesn't. It just seems to be more frequent among the religious.

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05-11-2012, 10:48 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 05:23 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?

You have a 190 page thread of you doing exactly that, my friend. Post after post of you tap-dancing around scientific formulas and trying to explain away obvious counter-evidence with figurative language.

You just don't know you're doing it because that religious filter in your brain is firmly in place.
No, not really. I don't explain away any science.

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05-11-2012, 10:49 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 06:34 PM)Near Wrote:  Good on you KC. My brother tried to pull that 'just a theory' bullshit on me a few days ago, and I wouldn't let him get away with it. Although, I'm pretty sure he just blocked it all out.

Just a few more years and you'll be a filthy atheist like the rest of us. Big Grin Wink
Nothing is out of the realm of possibilities... but I highly doubt it Smile

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05-11-2012, 10:53 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 07:01 PM)kim Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  I just sat there. Didn't say a word. I was sort of shocked.

It can be a bit of a shock, I suppose. Hell of a day at Sea, huh Kingsy? Shy

I realized sometime ago that you simply stood so deep within a bunch of trees, you really had no idea that you were surrounded by an actual forest.

Do you remember that time a few months ago when we exchanged nasty words? Ok, I used the nastier ones. Dodgy Anyway, you referenced what I felt was a fairly archaic or obscure biblical term. I told you I couldn't quite remember it so I looked it up, while you advised me it was a common term. I think I said to you... No, this not common unless one is a Christian. I think the last thing I said was something like... once again you expect the world to be only your size.

That's kind of what I'm referring to when I say, it looks like your world is growing. I'm glad for you even though it might kind of feel like pulling off a layer of skin. Don't worry, it grows back. You'll be ok - just always be aware of it. Decide if you are going to call people on their ignorance. You can still be yourself; you can still be sensitive to their journey and help get the point across to them. It's ok too, if you don't want to address the situation... you are in control of you. You know you always have been.

Tomorrow is a different day Kingsy. Wink
Thanks, Kim.

And, by the way, no hard feelings at all.

I don't know if I'm going to say anything... simply because I don't want to stir up controversy. I mean, if someone asks, I'll answer them, but I'm not going to put myself out there.

And yes, my world is growing... it has been for awhile Smile

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05-11-2012, 10:55 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 07:24 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Ok wait....are some of you suggesting that this is some sort of step towards "deconversion"?

From what I can recall, this is the sort of thing that strengthens KCs faith.


Just sayin.
Yeah, pretty much.

It's like... now, I want to talk to these people to try and open their eyes to God's sovereignty as I understand it.

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05-11-2012, 10:56 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 07:40 PM)Near Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 07:24 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Ok wait....are some of you suggesting that this is some sort of step towards "deconversion"?

From what I can recall, this is the sort of thing that strengthens KCs faith.


Just sayin.
I'm probably the only one who was saying that. Not knowing KC well at all, I am probably egregiously wrong, but here's to hope, right?

Just be you KC. Blush
lol are you sure you want me to be "me"?

I'm a little strange.

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05-11-2012, 10:56 AM (This post was last modified: 05-11-2012 01:37 PM by kingschosen.)
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 07:57 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 07:39 PM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  I was just thinking the very same. This may only serve to diminish his opinion of Christians or even just non-Calvinists. Too soon to tell.

It has only helped him understand that Southern Baptists are not Elect. Tongue
Pffft, they elect a lot. Do you know how many committees they have? Wink

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05-11-2012, 10:57 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(05-11-2012 10:56 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 07:40 PM)Near Wrote:  I'm probably the only one who was saying that. Not knowing KC well at all, I am probably egregiously wrong, but here's to hope, right?

Just be you KC. Blush
lol are you sure you want me to be "me"?

I'm a little strange.
Little. Dodgy

Like Jupiter is little... compared to the sun. Tongue

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05-11-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(05-11-2012 10:56 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I'm a little strange.

... Liar.

You're a lot strange.



Otherwise you wouldn't fit in Tongue



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What did you think I meant?
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05-11-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: My eyes have been slowly opening.
(04-11-2012 08:21 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 03:41 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  ...
How in the world could you ever shun knowledge? Or wisdom? Or science?
...

When we are taught to.
Confused

If I may sound an uncharacteristically sour note...

You may or may not recall a few weeks back when a trainee pastor joined the forum to use us to practice his skills. I didn't react well.

Recently, regarding your brother, I have been sitting on my typing fingers out of respect for you.

But!

What you were witnessing is what I call child-abuse.

No, not child rape. Leave that for the papists.

You saw the result of the corruption of the "duty of care", abuse of trust and abuse of a wider responsibility to humanity in the legacy we all leave behind us.

Now you have seen it.

Seen it as we see it.

What are you going to do?

Fight or flight?
Probably flight... well in regards to not saying anything. I'll just be quiet.

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