My feelings about Christianity now
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12-04-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: My feelings about Christianity now
(12-04-2017 03:05 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 05:31 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I hear this a lot on this forum and I don't really understand it. I went to a Lutheran parochial school K-9 and we were never taught that the Bible or even religion was "true". We were taught the Old Testament was an account of the history of the Jews and the New Testament was the dummie's guide to the Torah on how to live a decent life. We were never taught the creation story as anything other than a metaphor for the inherent risks associated with knowledge and technology. Same with the Tower of Babel. Maybe it's just the Lutherans? They were started by a pissed off vandal nailing 95 feces on a wall after all.

(11-04-2017 12:06 PM)qpmomma Wrote:  Wow, really?? I grew up Baptist and the Bible was 100% accurate. If science went against the Bible science was wrong. We watched Ken Ham's videos in science class...

(11-04-2017 06:35 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  I'm with qpmomma; growing up as a Baptist, got the whole "Earth is 6000 years old", "Earth was created in six literal days and on the seventh, God rested", "The Bible is inerrant and true, any science that conflicts with the Bible is wrong" stuff as well.

I don't think you were taught Christianity. Might've been taught something, but it sure as shit wasn't Christian.

Probably just Hovind-ism. They brought Kent to do a seminar long before he got thrown into federal prison for his tax stuff, at least at my church.

(12-04-2017 03:21 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 06:35 PM)Shai Hulud Wrote:  I'm with qpmomma; growing up as a Baptist, got the whole "Earth is 6000 years old", "Earth was created in six literal days and on the seventh, God rested", "The Bible is inerrant and true, any science that conflicts with the Bible is wrong" stuff as well.

But I've got one better...were you ever told dinosaurs didn't exist? Blink

Yeah that was me, in the early/mid 70s in a baptist grammar school. Gasp

We were taught that dinosaurs were a trick of fake scientists. They were almost always whale or bones of other animals, mixed up.

Dodgy

Oh that is good...heh. I never heard that from an authority figure only with a girl I flirted with at Baptist summer camp. Tongue Except she thought Satan planted the bones as a way to deceive us into thinking they existed. She also thought UFOs were demons.

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12-04-2017, 05:13 PM
RE: My feelings about Christianity now
(12-04-2017 04:40 PM)kmc Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 12:04 PM)qpmomma Wrote:  I am a mother to a young child. I'm lucky because my husband was never a Christian. He always said "What if the Bible isn't real? What if it's just made up stories?" I used to get so mad at him and we never talked about it. My daughter asks about god and Jesus (my fault) and I've been trying to undo that. She's only 7 so I think it's easier for me.

I'm glad you'll have your husband's support! Man, that's crucial. I'm going to give you some advice you didn't ask for, and that's to gently turn your conversations with your daughter to a focus on "what some people believe." Obviously, I'm no expert--first of all, it's your kid--and I have been fortunate not to suffer much from my own experience with church, to the extent I still enjoy going with my mom. However, the primary reason I take my kids with me (when I can be bothered to get up that early, that is) is because modern-church Christianity is a massive influence on our culture. I think the best innoculation someone can get against having a later-in-life born-again moment is by gaining an early, thorough familiarity with the church that is empathy-driven but put into historical and social context, with plenty of opportunity for questions and analysis. We don't read or tell bible stories at home, but I do plan to introduce them along with tales and myths from other cultures as well, and every time we go to church, we talk on the way home about the lessons and the messages they're getting. I'm very up front with them that Grandma believes in God, Daddy doesn't believe in God, and that other people believe in lots of different gods.

But ultimately, my point is that your daughter is at a great age to transition out of an idea of a perfect, true, unquestionable God, and that it's a great opportunity for you to deepen you guys' relationship by being open with her about changing your mind about something so huge.

Thanks for that. With Easter upon us I have been telling her "Some people believe in Jesus." In the same breath I also say "Some people celebrate Ostra." I am trying to teach her about other religions and cultures. I think if I put Christianity in the same category as other myths it'll be easier.

My grandparents stopped by today (we won't see them on Easter) and they gave my daughter a book about Jesus and Easter. I haven't told my family yet. I didn't really know what to do so I said "thank you" and when they left I used it to teach her the myth about Jesus.

At some point I'll tell the family, but I'm nervous about their reactions. That's a different topic for a different thread lol
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13-04-2017, 06:20 AM
RE: My feelings about Christianity now
I'm not sure at what age this would be suitable for a kid, but this is my favourite video for explaining why people believe such ridiculous things.




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