Naturalism = Nihilism?
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31-07-2014, 01:12 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
(under nihilism)The only authority, being oneself...


Most other people call upon a external authority, to claim that something is not aloud...

"you can't do that because god say's it's wrong"
or "don't do that, because it's against the law"
or "that's wrong, because that's what we have all agreed on"
or "stop doing that, it causes harm to another"
or "you shouldn't do that because you have to live with it"


It seems you would only say "do as you like!"
- would you agree?
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31-07-2014, 01:19 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
(31-07-2014 01:12 AM)nietzsche101 Wrote:  It seems you would only say "do as you like!"
- would you agree?
No, not quite.
What I am trying to teach my children is for them to become independent and confident to make their own decisions. I hope I am guiding them to think about the consequences and to decide for themselves what actions to take. It's their lives, their risks, their rewards.

Adults don't need permission. They can make their own decisions, and lie in the bed that they make for themselves.
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31-07-2014, 01:22 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
So you tell them:..."do as you like!"....."but think about the consequences"?
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31-07-2014, 01:57 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
(31-07-2014 01:22 AM)nietzsche101 Wrote:  So you tell them:..."do as you like!"....."but think about the consequences"?
That's too instructive for my style. I let them play, I let them try things, I let them make mistakes, I let them learn through their own experiences.

I don't bubble wrap them.
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31-07-2014, 02:01 AM (This post was last modified: 31-07-2014 02:10 AM by nietzsche101.)
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
But, surely these children need some sort of arbitrary values imposed upon them?
They need some sort of direction surely?
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31-07-2014, 02:07 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
(31-07-2014 02:01 AM)nietzsche101 Wrote:  But, surely these children need some sort of arbitrary values imposed upon them?
They need some sort of direction surely?
They value ice cream. If they don't feed themselves but instead make mummy feed them then the consequence is that they don't get any ice cream.
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31-07-2014, 02:17 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
Ok but I'm talking in a more general sense...

surely these kids need some type of philosophy to live by??

I'm just curious as to what that is?
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31-07-2014, 02:21 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
(31-07-2014 02:17 AM)nietzsche101 Wrote:  Ok but I'm talking in a more general sense...

surely these kids need some type of philosophy to live by??

I'm just curious as to what that is?
They are too young to understand philosophy.
They are learning by living.
They learn social skills by interacting with others.
They learn not to trust people because I lie to them.
They learn not to hit other kids because when they do, they find that the other kids hit them back.

Life is a great teacher.
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31-07-2014, 02:27 AM
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By "philosophy" I simply mean; a standard for right/wrong.

Every child needs a solid foundation for what is right/wrong!
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31-07-2014, 02:29 AM
RE: Naturalism = Nihilism?
(31-07-2014 02:27 AM)nietzsche101 Wrote:  By "philosophy" I simply mean; a standard for right/wrong.

Every child needs a solid foundation for what is right/wrong!
Huh? What do you mean by right and wrong?
Whose opinion are we going to force into my kids brains?
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