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21-05-2013, 12:03 PM
Nature vs Nurture
Can one take up the Nature side of the debate and still be an atheist?

I completely am on the nurture side, everything that make you you, is a result of influences that are made on your brain through outside input.

The Nature side gets kind of woo woo. Does anyone here believe in the nature side of this debate?
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21-05-2013, 12:08 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
As in, genetic predispositions to disease and disorder? Yea, nature (natural selection and genetics) seems entirely reasonable as an influence.

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21-05-2013, 12:15 PM
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(21-05-2013 12:08 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  As in, genetic predispositions to disease and disorder? Yea, nature (natural selection and genetics) seems entirely reasonable as an influence.

How does one measure a "pre-disposition"?

Isn't natural selection and genetics determined by forces outside of those set genetics?
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21-05-2013, 12:16 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
(21-05-2013 12:15 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(21-05-2013 12:08 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  As in, genetic predispositions to disease and disorder? Yea, nature (natural selection and genetics) seems entirely reasonable as an influence.

How does one measure a "pre-disposition"?

Really? Your genes can code for disease and genes have been identified that coincide with ailments and altered mental function later in life. Ergo, genes play a role in who you are and what can happen to you.

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21-05-2013, 12:17 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
As in, Downs Syndrome....
Parkinsons
Huntingtons
Etc.

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21-05-2013, 12:20 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
(21-05-2013 12:16 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(21-05-2013 12:15 PM)I and I Wrote:  How does one measure a "pre-disposition"?

Really? Your genes can code for disease and genes have been identified that coincide with ailments and altered mental function later in life. Ergo, genes play a role in who you are and what can happen to you.


Isn't a person with down syndrome a result of two other people playing hide the bologna causing their two DNA's to interact (each other is an outside influencing force to one another) resulting in a change in a DNA structure?

Oh and doesn't Evolution highly rely on changes due to ones environment?
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21-05-2013, 12:21 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
Cystic fibrosis
Tay-Sachs disease
Turner syndrome
Color blindness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_disorders

And then the mental health issues like schizophrenia, adhd, autism, bipolar disorder, and severe depression all seem to have similarities in the same sites on the chromosome
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-new...oots.shtml

But by all means, nature plays no role.

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21-05-2013, 12:23 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
(21-05-2013 12:20 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(21-05-2013 12:16 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Really? Your genes can code for disease and genes have been identified that coincide with ailments and altered mental function later in life. Ergo, genes play a role in who you are and what can happen to you.


Isn't a person with down syndrome a result of two other people playing hide the bologna causing their two DNA's to interact (each other is an outside influencing force to one another) resulting in a change in a DNA structure?

Oh and doesn't Evolution highly rely on changes due to ones environment?

Everyone's genetic make-up is a result of mating. And what are you trying to get on about with the evolution comment?

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21-05-2013, 12:27 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
(21-05-2013 12:21 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Cystic fibrosis
Tay-Sachs disease
Turner syndrome
Color blindness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_disorders

And then the mental health issues like schizophrenia, adhd, autism, bipolar disorder, and severe depression all seem to have similarities in the same sites on the chromosome
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-new...oots.shtml

But by all means, nature plays no role.

Define what you mean by "nature" "human nature"? "disease nature"? Can you even define what you are arguing for?

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21-05-2013, 12:28 PM
RE: Nature vs Nurture
(21-05-2013 12:27 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(21-05-2013 12:21 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Cystic fibrosis
Tay-Sachs disease
Turner syndrome
Color blindness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_disorders

And then the mental health issues like schizophrenia, adhd, autism, bipolar disorder, and severe depression all seem to have similarities in the same sites on the chromosome
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-new...oots.shtml

But by all means, nature plays no role.

Define what you mean by "nature" "human nature"? "disease nature"? Can you even define what you are arguing for?

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Do you know what nature vs nurture means?

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