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29-12-2012, 06:06 PM (This post was last modified: 30-12-2012 04:01 AM by Luminon.)
RE: Nazi alert and other people's reactions
(28-12-2012 06:21 PM)Dom Wrote:  The people you know sound like the hippies I used to hang with long ago. Peaceful, friendly folk who sit around and sing and talk. If only everyone was like that!

It took gays from the seventies to now to gain recognition. Women fought for women's rights to vote for decades. Ditto for Apartheid. These things don't happen overnight, they take decades of risky and devoted work, being ridiculed by the public and fighting on anyway.

As long as there are wars all over the globe, we're not having world peace. What are you going to do, go to the various countries and plead with them to make peace? How do you practically propose to get this baby off the ground?
Everyone can make peace, anywhere in the world. Interventions may be necessary in places like Congo or even Serbia/Albania, but they are militarily speaking a common kind of mission. The real problem, the focus of perpetual conflict in the world is, as you can guess, Palestine and its conquest by Israel. As long as there is the conflict of Israel, there can not be peace on Earth.
This is not just a dispute of who was there first. It's like the worst of our civilization threw in their lot with Israel. Specially the weapon traders, oil industry, Evangelical apocalyptics, East coast Sionist lobby and all the think tanks and politicians they can buy. They all get a lot of profit from that conflict, plus of course many Arab dictators around who sell weapons and oil too.

This indirectly points at a greater global need. When it comes to trade and business, it is a good thing but never at the detriment of the mentioned five basic human needs. To achieve a truly efficient and balanced distribution of world's resources and materials, they must be internationally shared through a method of transparent, sophisticated barter. The current method is based on speculation for the sole purpose of personal wealth and power, which causes
- extreme surplus of food in economically powerful states
- extreme poverty and hunger in economically weak states
- extreme influence of few speculating gamblers on stock markets on food and commodity prices (plus greater instability due to climate changes)
- monetary profits of speculation that do not contribute anything to the global public, as money are purely a social/political construct.
It is clear that the market fails here. However, we can't just take the resources and dump them somewhere. For example, EU has a heavily subsidized farming industry (almost a half of the budget, used to be up to 80 %!) which necessarily produces a large surplus. (due to heavy lobbying, despite of the fact that most farmers are actually paid NOT to produce food!) There were cases of large-scale destroying the food back in 96 or so, but due to the public pressure I think now they're shipping it to Africa. The problem is, the farmers there can't resist the inflow of european food with their farming, so they can't earn money, so they can't buy the shipped food anyway, nor build the local economy. They usually end up on Spanish farms growing lettuce for McDonald's and KFC.
Here you see another example of how money stop being the useful instrument they always were and become and impediment in access to the vital resources.

There are people who advocate a lesser, greater or gradual sharing of world resources, of course in a transparent and sophisticated way. For a beginning, we know there is the industrial surplus. The idea is to take that surplus and register it. Every nation should make a list of surplus resources. Then every nation should make a list of resources that it lacks. Then some special organization under the U.N. should keep track of it all and coordinate the information on what to send where in what amount.
Gradually this amount of shared resources should increase from mere surplus (that is often let to rot anyway in warehouses, so it doesn't decrease a market price) to all produced resources. This is how the resources will be declared a common heritage of all humanity and not a personal property. Because our whole glorious science of economy with all the wise heads and economy books is based on freebie resources from the nature. Labor adds to the price, but if human labor costs too much, replace it with machines who work relatively cheaply. They say, sell it as you bought it. (0,-)

Of course, the main, large-scale forms of financial speculation must be forbidden. Money is a socially-political construct and has no value on its own. It must be entirely regulated in an interest-free way by national central banks. For the time that they will exist at all, they must exist only in the amount used to exchange goods and services, which is about 5% of the monetary reserves of today. So even if the national banks print money according to the need, there'd be far less money in existence. I'm in favor of the interest-free currency, that does not grow in volume, similarly to how the body uses blood, a constant amount of it. However, the choice of local currencies that lose value over time is an interesting one and proven in practice, it prevents accumulation of wealth, speeds up economy and gives more control to the national bank over the overall money supply.
Of course, third world debts must be forgiven. They are anyway mostly a result of international usury practices, getting the nations into debt. The economically-financial institutions of today are self-appointed instruments of power and inherent inequality, causing injustice and provoking much violence. Remember, the Islamic terrorists on the September 11 did not target a church building, not even a megachurch. They targeted a center of world trade. They could kill more people, they could send a religious message. But they chose the symbol of economic supremacy as their target. Why should the world have a trade center at all, except to dominate it?

If you are concerned about how the common resources should and shouldn't be managed, I'd readily admit ignorance and point our attention to study of a book like this - Governing of Commons by Elinor Ostrom. It is not my plan to re-invent the wheel or to slap my copyright on everything or to fail. The world is full of know-how and instruments, only people are narrow-minded and they see every single instrument as a world solution in itself and so apply it far beyond its area of usefulness.

If you claim there are nuances to principles, there are no nuances to getting arrested or shot for disobeying the power.
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RE: Nazi alert and other people's reactions - Luminon - 29-12-2012 06:06 PM
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