Nazis also hated gays.
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16-07-2016, 05:34 PM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 05:33 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 05:18 PM)Gilgamesh Wrote:  'Ay.

Your motives are suspect. You fuckers are planning to storm across our northern border while Trump focuses on a quixotic attempt to build a wall on the southern border. .... clever bastards.

An invasion of Canadians? We will be 'polited' into submission. Tongue

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16-07-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 05:34 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 05:33 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Your motives are suspect. You fuckers are planning to storm across our northern border while Trump focuses on a quixotic attempt to build a wall on the southern border. .... clever bastards.

An invasion of Canadians? We will be 'polited' into submission. Tongue

Actually, I can see that working. Big Grin

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16-07-2016, 06:37 PM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 05:27 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Someone quick, call Ernst Rohm and tell him before it's too late!

The Night of the Long Knives (get it? LONG knives?) was about removing the openly gay Nazis, but more importantly, it was about getting rid of Röhm because he was thinking about replacing Hitler as head of the Nazi party.

The closeted gay weren't bothered as long as they stayed in the closet.
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16-07-2016, 07:00 PM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 05:33 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 05:18 PM)Gilgamesh Wrote:  'Ay.

Your motives are suspect. You fuckers are planning to storm across our northern border while Trump focuses on a quixotic attempt to build a wall on the southern border. .... clever bastards.

If Trump wins, please invade. Your fighter pilots can sleep on my futon. Please bring your health care system with you.
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16-07-2016, 08:28 PM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 05:34 PM)Anjele Wrote:  An invasion of Canadians? We will be 'polited' into submission. Tongue

Last time Canada invaded the USA, they burned down the White House. That wasn't very polite...

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16-07-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 06:37 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 05:27 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Someone quick, call Ernst Rohm and tell him before it's too late!

The Night of the Long Knives (get it? LONG knives?) was about removing the openly gay Nazis, but more importantly, it was about getting rid of Röhm because he was thinking about replacing Hitler as head of the Nazi party.

The closeted gay weren't bothered as long as they stayed in the closet.

Didn't help Ernst. Tongue

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17-07-2016, 01:00 AM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 06:37 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  The Night of the Long Knives (get it? LONG knives?) was about removing the openly gay Nazis,

Not really. Homosexuality was just used as a justification for entire action and only in part. Other part was "planned" putsch.

(16-07-2016 06:37 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  but more importantly, it was about getting rid of Röhm because he was thinking about replacing Hitler as head of the Nazi party.

According to Ian Kershaw Hitler 1889-1936: Hubris and Volker Ullrich Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939 SA and Rohm remained loyal if sometimes critical and troublesome.

Organization was simply too brutal for new times and it's ambitions to replace army weren't something that Hitler could tolerate if he wanted army support. There was also issue with von Pappen and conservatives so Hitler decided to solve both of his problems in one fell swoop.

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17-07-2016, 01:25 AM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(16-07-2016 05:18 PM)Gilgamesh Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 05:16 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Ain't you Canuck?

'Ay.

You are evil. Evil_monster Even the yanks dont deserve him, and i am saying this after having lost two world wars against them.

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17-07-2016, 01:31 AM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(17-07-2016 01:00 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(16-07-2016 06:37 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  The Night of the Long Knives (get it? LONG knives?) was about removing the openly gay Nazis,

Not really. Homosexuality was just used as a justification for entire action and only in part. Other part was "planned" putsch.

(16-07-2016 06:37 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  but more importantly, it was about getting rid of Röhm because he was thinking about replacing Hitler as head of the Nazi party.

According to Ian Kershaw Hitler 1889-1936: Hubris and Volker Ullrich Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939 SA and Rohm remained loyal if sometimes critical and troublesome.

Organization was simply too brutal for new times and it's ambitions to replace army weren't something that Hitler could tolerate if he wanted army support. There was also issue with von Pappen and conservatives so Hitler decided to solve both of his problems in one fell swoop.

Long and hard knives (krupp steel)!

While accusing Röhm of homosexuality was clearly only a reason to be justified to execute him on the spot, its not unlikely that high ranking SA leaders were indeed engaged in such practices. After all it was a group much like the catholic priesthood, isolated, women clearly being banned from being a part of it, that was constantly trying to demonstrate its "manhood" and impose it onto everybody else, and we all know how well repressive sexual behaviour like this turns out. Big Grin

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17-07-2016, 01:38 AM
RE: Nazis also hated gays.
(17-07-2016 01:31 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  While accusing Röhm of homosexuality was clearly only a reason to be justified to execute him on the spot, its not unlikely that high ranking SA leaders were indeed engaged in such practices.

Some were if I'm remember right.

(17-07-2016 01:31 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  After all it was a group much like the catholic priesthood, isolated, women clearly being banned from being a part of it, that was constantly trying to demonstrate its "manhood" and impose it onto everybody else, and we all know how well repressive sexual behaviour like this turns out. Big Grin

Well, in later years Himmler was worried about homosexuals in SS.

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