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23-01-2013, 04:27 PM
Need help with the wording of KC's Law
As most of you know, Stark created the concept of KC's law. It's been a running joke for awhile. All this time, it's been a concept with no concrete wording.

I'm working on that.

Let me know if this is clear. I more or less modified the wording of Godwin's Law.

KC's Law:
If a known religious person is involved in an online discussion with the irreligious; no matter the topic, as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of the discussion being redirected towards the religious person's religion approaches 1.

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23-01-2013, 04:35 PM (This post was last modified: 23-01-2013 04:40 PM by Vosur.)
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
If you're going to call it "KC's law", you should be wording it accordingly.

KC's Law:
If KC is involved in an online discussion on TTA; no matter the topic, as the discussion grows longer, the probability of it being redirected towards his Calvinistic/deterministic beliefs approaches 1.

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23-01-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
It should be accompanied by a graph.

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23-01-2013, 05:22 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
KC's Law:
If a known religious person is involved
in an online discussion with the
irreligious; no matter the topic, as an
online discussion grows longer, the
probability of the discussion being
directed/redirected towards the religious
person's set of beliefs approaches 1.

"When all else fails, bring religion to the table."

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23-01-2013, 05:50 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
(23-01-2013 04:44 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  It should be accompanied by a graph.

Yes, it's only a hypothesis at this stage. It needs to be backed with statistical evidence and it would be interesting to see who the redirection is initiated by - religious / non-religious, old members / new members, the same members / a fair distribution.

As for the hypothesis itself, I wonder if it is a more general property:
If a known outsider is involved in an online discussion on an insiders' board in a discussion with insiders; no matter what the topic, as the discussion grows longer, the probability of being directed/redirected towards the insider/outsider difference and/or criticism of the outsider position approaches 1.

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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24-01-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
(23-01-2013 04:35 PM)Vosur Wrote:  If you're going to call it "KC's law", you should be wording it accordingly.

KC's Law:
If KC is involved in an online discussion on TTA; no matter the topic, as the discussion grows longer, the probability of it being redirected towards his Calvinistic/deterministic beliefs approaches 1.
Well, no. It's not just applicable to me. It's applicable to the entire genre.

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24-01-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
(23-01-2013 05:22 PM)cheapthrillseaker Wrote:  KC's Law:
If a known religious person is involved
in an online discussion with the
irreligious; no matter the topic, as an
online discussion grows longer, the
probability of the discussion being
directed/redirected towards the religious
person's set of beliefs approaches 1.

"When all else fails, bring religion to the table."
I like it.

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24-01-2013, 02:15 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
(23-01-2013 05:50 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  
(23-01-2013 04:44 PM)Dark Light Wrote:  It should be accompanied by a graph.

Yes, it's only a hypothesis at this stage. It needs to be backed with statistical evidence and it would be interesting to see who the redirection is initiated by - religious / non-religious, old members / new members, the same members / a fair distribution.

As for the hypothesis itself, I wonder if it is a more general property:
If a known outsider is involved in an online discussion on an insiders' board in a discussion with insiders; no matter what the topic, as the discussion grows longer, the probability of being directed/redirected towards the insider/outsider difference and/or criticism of the outsider position approaches 1.
Anybody want to tackle this?

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24-01-2013, 02:21 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
(24-01-2013 02:15 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(23-01-2013 05:50 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  Yes, it's only a hypothesis at this stage. It needs to be backed with statistical evidence and it would be interesting to see who the redirection is initiated by - religious / non-religious, old members / new members, the same members / a fair distribution.

As for the hypothesis itself, I wonder if it is a more general property:
If a known outsider is involved in an online discussion on an insiders' board in a discussion with insiders; no matter what the topic, as the discussion grows longer, the probability of being directed/redirected towards the insider/outsider difference and/or criticism of the outsider position approaches 1.
Anybody want to tackle this?


The longer a discussion with a true believer continues, the probability that the true believer's views will be discounted because of faith becomes closer to certainty.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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24-01-2013, 02:21 PM
RE: Need help with the wording of KC's Law
If you documented certain instances with comments of KC's Law, then it should be easy to research. Sadly it's more likely that you, KC, would be able to find most of them to back it up, since you went through most of them.

For the graph, it would be all over the place. This kind of thing comes up sporadically.

Maybe making a thread to identify them would make it easier.

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