New Theory regarding black holes from Stephen Hawking

[Octapulse]

http://www.iflscience.com/space/black-ho...new-theory

[TurkeyBurner]

But what does it mean?

[Octapulse]

(25-08-2015 12:01 PM)TurkeyBurner Wrote:  But what does it mean?

It means you can now blame a black hole for eating your homework

[RocketSurgeon76]

Man, I'm starting to think that man's a genius.

Seriously, if not for modern medical science (and some luck and perseverance on his part), we would have lost this brilliant mind. Hoooray, science!

[Heywood Jahblome]

(25-08-2015 11:29 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  http://www.iflscience.com/space/black-ho...new-theory

Don't have time to look at it in depth. Did a 15 second skim and the first thing that came into my mind is Hawking is stealing(mayby building upon) an idea of Leonard Susskind's.

[Bucky Ball]

(25-08-2015 01:47 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  

(25-08-2015 11:29 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  http://www.iflscience.com/space/black-ho...new-theory

Don't have time to look at it in depth. Did a 15 second skim and the first thing that came into my mind is Hawking is stealing(mayby building upon) an idea of Leonard Susskind's.

Well then, we'll ALL just have to wait with baited breath, won't we, until our resident genius has time to do his "in depth review" of this and enlighten us all on this subject that he's obviously so completely in command of.



Jesus H. Fucking Christ

[houseofcantor]

I'd wait to parse a source more trustworthy than IFLScience.

[Grasshopper]

(25-08-2015 01:47 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  

(25-08-2015 11:29 AM)Octapulse Wrote:  http://www.iflscience.com/space/black-ho...new-theory

Don't have time to look at it in depth. Did a 15 second skim and the first thing that came into my mind is Hawking is stealing(mayby building upon) an idea of Leonard Susskind's.

I basically agree with this, although "steal" is a little strong. Hawking and Susskind had a famous disagreement on this issue. Susskind even wrote a well-known book about it (The Black Hole War). I don't think Hawking would be brazen enough to claim Susskind's ideas entirely as his own. But what's in the article basically sounds like Susskind's side of the argument (Hawking originally claimed that no information could escape from a black hole).

[Heywood Jahblome]

(25-08-2015 02:37 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  I basically agree with this, although "steal" is a little strong. Hawking and Susskind had a famous disagreement on this issue. Susskind even wrote a well-known book about it (The Black Hole War). I don't think Hawking would be brazen enough to claim Susskind's ideas entirely as his own. But what's in the article basically sounds like Susskind's side of the argument (Hawking originally claimed that no information could escape from a black hole).

I agree "steal" is a bit strong which is why I also added, "maybe build on". After reading it a little more closely I think the proper phrase is "inspired by". However they are sufficiently different that I think you can call them separate ideas.

Susskind theorized that the information isn't lost but saved on the "surface" of a blackhole. Hawkings is claiming that information isn't lost but actually radiates away from the black hole in the form of Hawking's radiation.

[Chas]

(26-08-2015 12:08 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Susskind theorized that the information isn't lost but saved on the "surface" of a blackhole. Hawkings is claiming that information isn't lost but actually radiates away from the black hole in the form of Hawking's radiation.

Hawking radiation