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19-05-2015, 06:00 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(19-05-2015 04:48 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(18-05-2015 05:17 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  Link removed.

Please try harder. Throwing up a 'Ray Comfort Is Too Stupid To Understand Evolution But Argues Against It Anyway' vid on your first post... Nah.


Huh

https://youtu.be/MUa8lXyIwFE

Hey dickwad, when admin removed a link, editing to put it back in is somewhat rude, dontcha think? Somewhat spammy?

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19-05-2015, 06:09 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(18-05-2015 06:57 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  I would very much like to see a debate between the Atheists on here and the youtube video uploader.

Would be pointless. Takes an extreme degree of willful ignorance to not accept the theory of evolution. That's why they just usually get insulted. Tongue

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19-05-2015, 08:19 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(19-05-2015 05:26 AM)Chas Wrote:  Then you should invite the ignorant but opinionated youtuber to join us. We'll await his arrival with rapt anticipation. Drinking Beverage

Indeed. Just as soon as we finish cleaning up the last one...

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19-05-2015, 08:57 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(18-05-2015 06:20 PM)jennybee Wrote:  


Great video!

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19-05-2015, 09:13 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(18-05-2015 06:04 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  
(18-05-2015 05:17 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  Link removed.

Please try harder. Throwing up a 'Ray Comfort Is Too Stupid To Understand Evolution But Argues Against It Anyway' vid on your first post... Nah.


Huh

Ray Comfort?
What is that?

Well in the video
The Scientific Method was defined as
"The collection of data through observation and experimentation"

Evolution occurs over millions of years

So evolution can't really directly be observed.

Nor is it a process that can be repeated through experimentation

Observation supports evolution both historically in the fossil record, in the laboratories and farms where we no only see but breed for mutations, but also in nature, where it has been observed in the wild.

As for repeatability through experimentation, how do you think the different breeds of cattle came about from ancestral aurochs, or dogs from wolves? They were bred from parent stock that was different.
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19-05-2015, 09:18 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(19-05-2015 09:13 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  Observation supports evolution both historically in the fossil record, in the laboratories and farms where we no only see but breed for mutations, but also in nature, where it has been observed in the wild.

As for repeatability through experimentation, how do you think the different breeds of cattle came about from ancestral aurochs, or dogs from wolves? They were bred from parent stock that was different.

But kinds, man. Kinds. . Rolleyes

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19-05-2015, 09:18 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(18-05-2015 06:14 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  For it to be considered science it must be observable and testable through experimentation.

Not necessarily. Are you now arguing that astronomy is not a science? What about plate tectonics?

Quote:Who has actually seen evolution happen with their own eyes?

You have. You see, the reason why you must get a different flu shot every year is because the flu virus regularly mutates -- it evolves.

Quote:Who has actually observed a change in kinds?

Since you're so concerned about a solid scientific basis for EbNS, please link us to the scientific definition of kinds.

Hint: there is no scientific definition of "kinds", because it is a category invented by creationists to fudge the truth that evolution is a fact.

Quote:Who has actually replicated evolution through experimentation?

Farmers. Epidemiologists.

Quote:Are these not valid points and questions?

No. They're questions designed to obfuscate the fact that creationists do not understand the science behind evolution.
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19-05-2015, 09:36 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(18-05-2015 06:04 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  
(18-05-2015 05:17 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  Link removed.

Please try harder. Throwing up a 'Ray Comfort Is Too Stupid To Understand Evolution But Argues Against It Anyway' vid on your first post... Nah.


Huh

Ray Comfort?
What is that?

Well in the video
The Scientific Method was defined as
"The collection of data through observation and experimentation"

Evolution occurs over millions of years

So evolution can't really directly be observed.

Nor is it a process that can be repeated through experimentation

So if it can't be observed and it can't be repeated through experiment

Then how is evolution science?

I just wanted to know what the response of other Atheists would be

And

I also welcome Atheists to post their ideas and thoughts as comments on that youtube video

ME PERSONALLY?

I'm theist in terms of God
I'm Agnostic when it comes to Creation and Evolution

Let me explain something...arguments you and people like Ray make ,to the people on this forum, sound so incredibly stupid that we assume that you are a troll coz we get a good share of those. Thus the reaction you got.


Carry on, good people of this forum who still have the patience to do so will give you all the education on the subject you need.

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19-05-2015, 09:38 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(19-05-2015 09:36 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  
(18-05-2015 06:04 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  Ray Comfort?
What is that?

Well in the video
The Scientific Method was defined as
"The collection of data through observation and experimentation"

Evolution occurs over millions of years

So evolution can't really directly be observed.

Nor is it a process that can be repeated through experimentation

So if it can't be observed and it can't be repeated through experiment

Then how is evolution science?

I just wanted to know what the response of other Atheists would be

And

I also welcome Atheists to post their ideas and thoughts as comments on that youtube video

ME PERSONALLY?

I'm theist in terms of God
I'm Agnostic when it comes to Creation and Evolution

Let me explain something...arguments you and people like Ray make ,to the people on this forum, sound so incredibly stupid that we assume that you are a troll coz we get a good share of those. Thus the reaction you got.


Carry on, good people of this forum who still have the patience to do so will give you all the education on the subject you need.

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19-05-2015, 09:46 AM
RE: No Evidence for Evolution?
(18-05-2015 06:14 PM)ShenHz Wrote:  
(18-05-2015 06:07 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  "Other atheists" ? First you claim to be one, then you contradict yourself . WTAF ?

I never said I was Atheist.

I used to be Atheist in middle school but I became a Theist after High School.

I'm posting because I'm not really sure about evolution.

I believed in it 100% when I was Atheist

But now I accept it as a possibility.

I mean the video I posted presents a valid argument does it not?

For it to be considered science it must be observable and testable through experimentation.

Who has actually seen evolution happen with their own eyes?

Who has actually observed a change in kinds?

Who has actually replicated evolution through experimentation?

Are these not valid points and questions?

Be careful listening to Ray Comfort. He also "wrote" a book called Scientific Facts in the Bible. If you read that book, you will see how silly some of his arguments are. I laughed my way all of the way through it--and that was back when I was still a Christian.
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