No More Computer Gaming For Christ's Sake!
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07-09-2012, 01:51 PM
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(07-09-2012 01:43 PM)Egor Wrote:  
(07-09-2012 01:29 PM)Red Tornado Wrote:  Dude you're so wrong it makes me laugh....xD Games give jobs, ideas, and social interaction better than the old days. The other day my friend in Europe talked to me on a game chat.

That "friend" won't give you a ride to work, loan you lunch money or weep at your funeral. You see the damage already done? You call that person a friend.

You're so wrong it makes me weep! Weeping

Actually if she comes to the US or when I can go to Europe she would, and with pay pal she can loan me money, and if she truly wanted to she would come to my funeral or message my love to give sympathy.

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07-09-2012, 01:53 PM
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I gotta be honest, I,m leaning towards Egors point of view on this one. Maybe not quite as extreme, but I get the point. It seems like a battle just to get kids to go outside. It worries me that the younger generation is losing touch with "the real world".

I accept that technology changes us, and I'm cool with that. But when it gets to the point where people are spending 47.5 hours straight playing video games I worry. I do my best to temper that worry by reminding myself that my parents had the same concerns, and I turned out ok, but it sure ain't easy. Especially when I see a decline in values of my own generation compared to my parents. And yes, I realize "values" is a vague and subjective word. But when a video game trumps a walk outdoors, this old fart can't help being concerned.

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07-09-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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(07-09-2012 01:44 PM)nach_in Wrote:  there're several studies that prove that gaming improves creativity and brain functions... of course they have a downside, but you try to name one thing that doesn't Sad

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...83932.html

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(07-09-2012 01:46 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  I would have to argue that gaming is a major cause for creativity. As a gamer and a hopefully future software developer, I struggle to keep up. The ingenuity and originality of the concepts of a lot of these games coming out are previously unseen. Games like Portal, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, LA Noire, and strangely, Batman, are mind expanding masterpieces and push the limitations of human creativity. I think that people are still daydreaming, only they're channeling those daydreams into programs for other people to experience.

I admit, the programmer is the exception to the rule. But like the creators of the hydrogen bomb, you aren't helping anyone. You push ahead and find the apex of your creativity at the expense of destroying your customers reason for living.

...actually, I can kind of respect that. I am a "Breaking Bad" fan. Confused

Quote: And frail humans will eventually turn to cannibalism. So we need bacon to avoid cannibalism.

Ohmy...on second thought, I think you might be right.

And let's not forget all the people in prison who ate peanut butter as a child. Consider
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07-09-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Sorry folks, off to get ready for work. If it's a dull night, I'll check in there.
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07-09-2012, 04:08 PM
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(07-09-2012 01:21 PM)Egor Wrote:  Yes, I used to play video games in the early 80’s, but it was different then. You actually had to go out of the house to do it, which meant at the very least on the way to the arcade and home, you had to interact with people, and if you walked to-and-fro you had time to think about things, imagine things, get bored in your mind so you mind would wander.

Today, the worst thing in the world is happening because of technology, the creative potential of youth is being systematically destroyed. Without art there is no culture. Without culture there is no civilization. Without civilization there is no prosperity, no forward evolution, no actualized potential; all that remains is war, lust, greed, and mental illness. Already the signs of devolution are apparent.




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07-09-2012, 08:55 PM
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Egor Wrote:We've suckled the silicone boob of technology too long. We have what we need. It's time to look somewhere else.
What if we like boobs?

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07-09-2012, 09:11 PM
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(07-09-2012 01:21 PM)Egor Wrote:  Without art there is no culture. Without culture there is no civilization. Without civilization there is no prosperity, no forward evolution, no actualized potential; all that remains is war, lust, greed, and mental illness. Already the signs of devolution are apparent.

Without computer games, there are no thumb injuries. Without thumb injuries, the Ortho surgeons go broke. If Ortho surgeons go broke, hospitals go broke. If hospitals go broke, we get no medical care. With no medical care the morticians will clean up, and we run out of cemetery plots. With no cemetery plots, bodies stack up. If bodies stack up, things start to smell. If things start to smell, people put clothes pins on their noses. If people put clothes pins on their noses all the trees will be cut down to make more clothes pins. With no trees, global warming will accelerate, and the human race will not survive. Tongue

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07-09-2012, 09:30 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012 09:33 PM by Buddy Christ.)
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(07-09-2012 09:11 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(07-09-2012 01:21 PM)Egor Wrote:  Without art there is no culture. Without culture there is no civilization. Without civilization there is no prosperity, no forward evolution, no actualized potential; all that remains is war, lust, greed, and mental illness. Already the signs of devolution are apparent.

Without computer games, there are no thumb injuries. Without thumb injuries, the Ortho surgeons go broke. If Ortho surgeons go broke, hospitals go broke. If hospitals go broke, we get no medical care. With no medical care the morticians will clean up, and we run out of cemetery plots. With no cemetery plots, bodies stack up. If bodies stack up, things start to smell. If things start to smell, people put clothes pins on their noses. If people put clothes pins on their noses all the trees will be cut down to make more clothes pins. With no trees, global warming will accelerate, and the human race will not survive. Tongue

This 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon method of thinking is starting to remind me of the Direct TV commercials.





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07-09-2012, 09:31 PM
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(07-09-2012 09:30 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  
(07-09-2012 09:11 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Without computer games, there are no thumb injuries. Without thumb injuries, the Ortho surgeons go broke. If Ortho surgeons go broke, hospitals go broke. If hospitals go broke, we get no medical care. With no medical care the morticians will clean up, and we run out of cemetery plots. With no cemetery plots, bodies stack up. If bodies stack up, things start to smell. If things start to smell, people put clothes pins on their noses. If people put clothes pins on their noses all the trees will be cut down to make more clothes pins. With no trees, global warming will accelerate, and the human race will not survive. Tongue

This 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon method of thinking is starting to remind me of the Direct TV commericials.





Damn. I was looking for THAT. I couldn't find it. That's exactly what I was thinking of. Big Grin

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07-09-2012, 09:32 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012 09:36 PM by fstratzero.)
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(07-09-2012 01:21 PM)Egor Wrote:  Yes, I used to play video games in the early 80’s, but it was different then. You actually had to go out of the house to do it, which meant at the very least on the way to the arcade and home, you had to interact with people, and if you walked to-and-fro you had time to think about things, imagine things, get bored in your mind so you mind would wander.

Today, the worst thing in the world is happening because of technology, the creative potential of youth is being systematically destroyed. Without art there is no culture. Without culture there is no civilization. Without civilization there is no prosperity, no forward evolution, no actualized potential; all that remains is war, lust, greed, and mental illness. Already the signs of devolution are apparent.

Saying that technology/video games leads to the things you are describing is a slippery slope fallacy, and reminds me of some of the ideas that came out of the 90's.

Now this did remind me of the idea that entertainment is detrimental, when it becomes an addiction or is misinterpreted as truth.

I would be so bold as to say that many people are lost in entertainment. Escaping their daily lives through fictional books, tv, video games, game on facebook, etc

Many people have never tried to separate what is truth and what isn't. That leads them to take phrases like "based on a true story" or "study x find that y is good" to be factual statements and not as misrepresented forms of reality manipulated to make you want to pay attention. Fear, anger, and sexual tension are big selling points in the media.

A good book for the subject matter is, The Psychology of Entertainment Media: Blurring the Lines Between Entertainment and Persuasion

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