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19-06-2016, 10:41 PM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
(19-06-2016 03:13 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  OK...

I KNOW there's going to be a bunch of dribblers who are going to start screaming "CONSPIRACY THEORIST" -- and putting up pictures of guys in tin-foil hats.......

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BUT...

I'm not getting this from "Weird Net Daily" - or the National Enquirer....

This is from the Wall Street Journal......

http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-does-the...1466117176

Go read this.......

And give me a rational reason - that the Federal Government -- like the IRS, the EPA and the FDA are arming themselves with arming themselves to the teeth??????


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The Internal Revenue Service, which has 2,316 special agents, spent nearly $11 million on guns, ammunition and military-style equipment. That’s nearly $5,000 in gear for each agent.

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WTF is going on??????

And you think civilians getting RID of their guns is a good idea?????


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Gross misrepresentation of statistics. Classic for an opinion piece. Find Big Numbers and make them Sound Scary.

Most of it's behind a pay wall but what I saw showed that they'd aggregated the armed members of all non-military departments and agencies to arrive at the grand total that's "more heavily armed than the Marine Corp". Taken individually, no single department has an inordinate amount of firepower. Between Oklahoma City and 9/11 it would be stupid of them in the extreme not to have some level of armed security.

The IRS has 2316 "special agents" with $11 million in weapons and gear? The USMC spent more than twice that last year alone. Given that the IRS has ~80,000 employees and is one of the more hated government departments I'm a little surprised that they aren't spending more on security.

I'd be much more interested in seeing where that money actually went. $5000/agent seems a bit steep but who knows what that includes. I'd bet that somebody's brother-in-law had an army surplus store. Sounds like cousins of the $2000 screwdrivers and $5000 toilet seats that the Pentagon buys in bulk.

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19-06-2016, 11:37 PM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
I'm going to call bullshit on this. It's an opinion piece. It's weird reading this because I just called out the BLM movement for what I feel it really is a symptom of, but in no way is a single IRS agent some how the equivalent of a Marine.
A single Marine costs are $59,250.84 when you include the training and the gear. The Gear is over 18,000 alone. The IRS is barely as armed as the Chinese, who, in total spend only about $3,500 per soldier.

This isn't to say that the IRS and EPA and others arming up isn't a concern... it is, but... it's pretty gross to say that they've some how morphed into Grunts. There's no way.
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20-06-2016, 04:14 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
(19-06-2016 03:13 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  And you think civilians getting RID of their guns is a good idea?????


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http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...pid1014620
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20-06-2016, 05:28 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
(20-06-2016 04:14 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(19-06-2016 03:13 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  And you think civilians getting RID of their guns is a good idea?????


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http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...pid1014620
  • Fanatical devotion to the cause.
  • Justification based on an ancient text that could mean anything.
  • Refusal to compromise.
  • Persecution mentality despite getting own way.
  • "No surrender" mentality.
  • Rules not readily extended to minorities.
  • Exploitation by politicians and corporate lobbyists.
  • Tries to convince other people and by doing so ultimately makes the world a worse place.

Move here - become a citizen - THEN your opinion will be valid here...

Or should we start telling you that you should be forced to stay in the EU???


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20-06-2016, 05:33 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
(20-06-2016 05:28 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(20-06-2016 04:14 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...pid1014620
  • Fanatical devotion to the cause.
  • Justification based on an ancient text that could mean anything.
  • Refusal to compromise.
  • Persecution mentality despite getting own way.
  • "No surrender" mentality.
  • Rules not readily extended to minorities.
  • Exploitation by politicians and corporate lobbyists.
  • Tries to convince other people and by doing so ultimately makes the world a worse place.

Move here - become a citizen - THEN your opinion will be valid here...

Or should we start telling you that you should be forced to stay in the EU???


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So if I copy-pasted what Mathilda said, would it be more valid simply because I'm a US citizen? Come on, we both know that's stupid...

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20-06-2016, 05:55 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
An analysis of those numbers.

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20-06-2016, 06:28 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
Just how desperate is the gun lobby when they have to make shit up to justify?
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20-06-2016, 07:54 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
Damn!

I knew we should have deleted that Libertarian / Molyneux stuff that Luminon vomited forth about killing IRS agents.

We've inadvertently started an arms race.

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20-06-2016, 10:34 AM (This post was last modified: 20-06-2016 10:43 AM by Grasshopper.)
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
(19-06-2016 07:48 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Cause we all know that News Corp Opinion pieces are based on 100% fact and never ever lie.

It's obvious to me -- the IRS are arming themselves against the likes of Luminon.

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I see DLJ and I think alike -- I hadn't seen his post when I made this one.
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20-06-2016, 10:46 AM
RE: Non-Defense Department now more heavily armed than the Marine Corp
(20-06-2016 05:28 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(20-06-2016 04:14 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...pid1014620
  • Fanatical devotion to the cause.
  • Justification based on an ancient text that could mean anything.
  • Refusal to compromise.
  • Persecution mentality despite getting own way.
  • "No surrender" mentality.
  • Rules not readily extended to minorities.
  • Exploitation by politicians and corporate lobbyists.
  • Tries to convince other people and by doing so ultimately makes the world a worse place.

Move here - become a citizen - THEN your opinion will be valid here...

Or should we start telling you that you should be forced to stay in the EU???


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