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12-09-2015, 01:50 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(12-09-2015 01:46 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 01:42 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  Well I feel qualified to answer that as I was a southern baptist.

Southern baptist: infected with faith
Atheists: not infected with faith
Yes, correct answer. the only difference.

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12-09-2015, 02:52 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 04:14 PM)julep Wrote:  There are always going to be outliers. There are certainly people who are legally children who are capable of consent; there are people who are legally adults whose ability to consent is questionable.

It's my opinion that the vast majority of incestuous marriages, as envisioned by blow job, would involve people who had shared households with one another for many years before applying for a marriage license, and that my concerns about consent and power would apply.
Yes, I agree that parent's interfering with children (even those that have become 16) is a concern.

Law is difficult because it is normally a black and white thing. Set rules that lemmings (lawyers and judges) must follow.

It is hard to provision exceptions where clearly some cases are exceptions. In the case of the clip I presented, these guys offer no threat to society. Makes no sense to seperate them or lock them up.
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12-09-2015, 02:58 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(12-09-2015 01:28 PM)Alla Wrote:  OK. So, both Christians and atheists do the same thing - preach morality and ethics. Before I thought that only Christians are guilty of doing this.
Atheism isn't really a thing. It is a "label" placed onto individuals to denote that the individual lacks a belief in god.
It doesn't come with any scripture, or any set of morals or anything.

If a group of people get together and form a club with a "morals/ethics" focus e.g. Humanism, they aren't representing "atheism", they aren't a subgroup of atheism. Theists can be humanists.

Perhaps "Satanism" or "Bhudism" could be classified as an atheist subgroup with a focus on morals or ethics.
But most atheists aren't Satanists or Bhuddists.

We have no prescribed morals, we have no instruction to spread a prescribed set of morals to others, we have no holy book unifying us towards a common set of morals.
If some atheists take it upon themselves to promote a set of morals or a moral basis then these people are doing it on their own backs, they aren't doing it in the name of atheism.
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12-09-2015, 03:46 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
Holy Shit Alla! You need serious mental help. How can you say "It's fine to have sex with children." even as a joke. That is truly despicable. Any shred of respect, I had left for you was completely thrown out. When the time comes again for a vote to bane you from the forum expect my vote to be a yes.

Morality is not restricted to the religious.

How dose it always come to this? We start a conversation about two consenting grown adults with mutual feeling's for one another, that want to give their partner rights to hospital visits, funeral rights, etc...etc.. as well as a vow of prolonged partnership. And then it's compared to pedophilia, and bestiality.

I for one do not feel incest is win-cest. Thou I understand when people say if two people love each other, so what. And for the most part it dosen't affect me. But I think about the generations that may result from such unions.

As it results in grand birth defects.

The Lobster family.
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Ostrich Tribe of Zimbabwe
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There is also a list of Royal family's threw out history that would marry only within there family. Their way of keeping the Rich, Rich.
http://listverse.com/2014/11/26/10-royal...th-incest/

Mental disorders and physical diseases increase at an exponential rate.

I work for a Native American Casino. We have recently gone threw a major power struggle. The current Chairman (Chef) has been voted in for a 6th consecutive term. He raised a law that would cut off anyone in the tribe that was not pure blood, from the benefits of having a casino on tribal land (Mostly $3,000 dollars a month of free money) They trace the family lines back for 20 generations. The tribe is ruffly 1000 members. Pure bloods are ruffle 500. How do you keep 20 generations of a dwindling tribe pure blood?

Incest.

The Chairman is married to his first cousin. They have 3 children. All with extreme deformalitys, and mental disorders. Even thou the youngest two are 15 and 18. They have the mental compasity of 5 year olds. This marks the end of the Kuppa tribe.

Now I don't think I can use this a strong grounds for me reasoning mostly because the human world population is around 7 Billion. But if you want to see when a species is forced to continuasly have incest look at the cheetah. It's blood line has become so small we can't even make clones that would be able to sustain the species. They soon will be extinct due to inbreeding.


Now I am always surprised that people the adhere to the bible don't think about this but the number of time incest is glanced over in the bible. Adam & Eve, Cain and His wife Genesis 4:16-17, Abraham and Sara Genesis 20:12-13, Lot and his Daughters Genesis 19:31-36, Amram and Jochabed Exodus 6:19-20 Amnon and Thamar II Kings 13:1-14, And the big one NOAH! If god whipped every person on the planet execpt Noah and his kids, someone was fucking someones close relative.

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12-09-2015, 06:47 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(12-09-2015 01:28 PM)Alla Wrote:  OK. So, both Christians and atheists do the same thing - preach morality and ethics. Before I thought that only Christians are guilty of doing this.

Some atheists are moral realists, but not all.



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12-09-2015, 07:34 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
The main reasons I despise xianity is 1. it is immoral. 2. it is anti life.

Any xian sprouting morals at me, when I know the bible so well usually gets a mouthful and then told to fuck off.

Christian morals? Give me a break!

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12-09-2015, 10:12 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(12-09-2015 01:28 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 01:22 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Cults by their definition have a leader/figurehead. It's a necessity.

You have judged and preached on here. Religiously and Politically. When you assert your belief is the truth and inform people I am speaking my belief and telling them it is the truth.. you have preached many times in doing that.
OK. So, both Christians and atheists do the same thing - preach morality and ethics. Before I thought that only Christians are guilty of doing this.

I guess you have never heard of secular humanism. Drinking Beverage

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14-09-2015, 04:47 AM (This post was last modified: 14-09-2015 04:50 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 01:44 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 01:36 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Which part of "consenting adults" do you not understand?

I understanding what consenting adults means. I am just probing how strong your convictions are. I take it then, you would be okay with two consenting adults drawing pictures of themselves having sex with children....because no actual children are being harmed or involved.

Suppose those pictures were extremely lifelike....so much so that you couldn't tell the difference from a real photograph without diligent scrutiny. Would you be okay with those adults inviting their friends over to view their drawings of child pornography?

Child porn victimizes children. Cartoon children cannot be victimized, so draw and fantasize all you want dumbass. Drinking Beverage

Things that don't exist cannot be victimized, just like how your god cannot be offended.

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14-09-2015, 05:09 AM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
Apparently HB has you on ignore so,

Here is EK and the above quoted.

Child porn victimizes children. Cartoon children cannot be victimized, so draw and fantasize all you want dumbass. Drinking Beverage

Things that don't exist cannot be victimized, just like how your god cannot be offended.

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I will call him a liar and a dog here and now.
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14-09-2015, 06:16 AM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
lol I saw the title of the thread and the poster and I already knew what it was the OP was going to say.

In BJ's defense, I was somewhat wrong. I was assuming he was going to ask about bestiality and not incest.
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