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11-09-2015, 02:38 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 02:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 02:05 PM)julep Wrote:  So you haven't even bothered to develop a personal ethical code? Pity… That's kind of lazy, don't you think?
my ethical code says that it is OK to have sex with children.
(11-09-2015 02:05 PM)julep Wrote:  Scary that the only thing keeping you from, say, killing another human is that your religion says that it's wrong.
there is another thing - I didn't have desire to kill another person. not yet.
is it immoral to kill another?

Your ethical code says that it's okay to have sex with children? Gasp

I don't think much of your ethics, then.

In terms of whether it's always immoral to kill another human being, that's not a question with a simple yes or no answer. However, I am a bit relieved that you haven't yet felt the desire to kill another person, if that's what's keeping you from doing so. Killing another person just because I desired to do it would be a violation of my personal ethics, as well as illegal.
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11-09-2015, 02:47 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 02:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 02:05 PM)julep Wrote:  So you haven't even bothered to develop a personal ethical code? Pity… That's kind of lazy, don't you think?
my ethical code says that it is OK to have sex with children.

Watch it Alla. Few more comments like that and you will face the banhanmmer.


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11-09-2015, 03:00 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 05:22 AM)julep Wrote:  My issue with incestuous marriage would be consent. Consent implies that there's enough space between the parties, and enough equality of power in the relationship, for each to make an unforced decision.

I'm just not sure real consent is possible between parents and children, even when the children are adults. The same holds with sibling relationships.
How about this situation?
Consent seems real, the girl was separated from her father at 1 years old and met him later in life as an adult.





Are they a danger to society? Should they be locked up?
Or is it a personal matter, not for you or me to interfere?
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11-09-2015, 04:14 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 03:00 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 05:22 AM)julep Wrote:  My issue with incestuous marriage would be consent. Consent implies that there's enough space between the parties, and enough equality of power in the relationship, for each to make an unforced decision.

I'm just not sure real consent is possible between parents and children, even when the children are adults. The same holds with sibling relationships.
How about this situation?
Consent seems real, the girl was separated from her father at 1 years old and met him later in life as an adult.





Are they a danger to society? Should they be locked up?
Or is it a personal matter, not for you or me to interfere?

(I wouldn't have any intention of interfering in any case.)

There are always going to be outliers. There are certainly people who are legally children who are capable of consent; there are people who are legally adults whose ability to consent is questionable.

It's my opinion that the vast majority of incestuous marriages, as envisioned by blow job, would involve people who had shared households with one another for many years before applying for a marriage license, and that my concerns about consent and power would apply.
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11-09-2015, 05:26 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 01:33 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 01:19 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  So if two consenting adults drew pictures of themselves having sex with children....you're okay with that?
HJ, atheists are OK with that.
there is no such thing as "morality" , or every person(atheist) has his/her own definition of morality.

You don't understand thinking for yourself, do you. Consider

And morality is defined with the individuals interaction with society.

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11-09-2015, 05:27 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 01:44 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 01:36 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Which part of "consenting adults" do you not understand?

I understanding what consenting adults means. I am just probing how strong your convictions are. I take it then, you would be okay with two consenting adults drawing pictures of themselves having sex with children....because no actual children are being harmed or involved.

Suppose those pictures were extremely lifelike....so much so that you couldn't tell the difference from a real photograph without diligent scrutiny. Would you be okay with those adults inviting their friends over to view their drawings of child pornography?

If it's in private, no harm, no foul.

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11-09-2015, 05:31 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 02:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 02:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  my ethical code says that it is OK to have sex with children.

Watch it Alla. Few more comments like that and you will face the banhanmmer.

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11-09-2015, 05:41 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 05:31 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 02:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Watch it Alla. Few more comments like that and you will face the banhanmmer.

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Wouldn't hurt if she "accidentally" caught Heywood with the backswing. Big Grin
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11-09-2015, 06:40 PM
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(11-09-2015 05:41 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 05:31 PM)Chas Wrote:  [Image: 1erCRztT.png]

Wouldn't hurt if she "accidentally" caught Heywood with the backswing. Big Grin

And GodExists or psike-whatever-the-911-idiot for the hat trick

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11-09-2015, 06:42 PM
RE: Now that same sex marriages are legal
(11-09-2015 05:26 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-09-2015 01:33 PM)Alla Wrote:  HJ, atheists are OK with that.
there is no such thing as "morality" , or every person(atheist) has his/her own definition of morality.

You don't understand thinking for yourself, do you. Consider

How could she when she's apparently never even considered doing it?

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