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18-01-2017, 11:59 AM
RE: Obama Frees Chelsea Manning
(18-01-2017 11:55 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(18-01-2017 11:46 AM)Dom Wrote:  Because you just have to be an asshole.

I do not recognize the wants and desires of a man convicted under the espionage act. I served 10 years in the military and have no respect for the fool or this president.

Because you just have to be an asshole.

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18-01-2017, 12:04 PM
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An argument can always be made against any Presidential pardon. I don't like them. But the law is an ass.

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18-01-2017, 12:07 PM
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(18-01-2017 11:05 AM)yakherder Wrote:  Maybe Julian figures Trump will return the favour and do the same.

Assange probably has nothing to worry about from Trump. He is a big fan. Yuge...

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18-01-2017, 12:08 PM
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(18-01-2017 12:04 PM)tomilay Wrote:  An argument can always be made against any Presidential pardon. I don't like them. But the law is an ass.

True. But murderers, rapists or spies should NEVER be pardoned or have their sentenced commuted.

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18-01-2017, 12:11 PM
RE: Obama Frees Chelsea Manning
(18-01-2017 12:08 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(18-01-2017 12:04 PM)tomilay Wrote:  An argument can always be made against any Presidential pardon. I don't like them. But the law is an ass.

True. But murderers, rapists or spies should NEVER be pardoned or have their sentenced commuted.

Not that anyone cares about your opinions, but you didn't explain why.

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18-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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(18-01-2017 11:40 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Obama has freed more federal prisoners than the previous 9 or 10 presidents combined. Obama is a fucking disgrace and a disaster for this country.

Yes, he freed more than the last 10 Presidents, but not combined. Combined, you only have to go back 5 before you're wrong. Point taken that he freed an unusually high number though.

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18-01-2017, 01:23 PM
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10 has a more truthy ring. It's all about the truthiness.
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18-01-2017, 01:37 PM (This post was last modified: 18-01-2017 02:02 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: Obama Frees Chelsea Manning
(18-01-2017 01:19 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(18-01-2017 11:40 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Obama has freed more federal prisoners than the previous 9 or 10 presidents combined. Obama is a fucking disgrace and a disaster for this country.

Yes, he freed more than the last 10 Presidents, but not combined. Combined, you only have to go back 5 before you're wrong. Point taken that he freed an unusually high number though.

Are you sure? A quick google search brings up 25 articles backing up my number, including this from Obama loving Mother Jones.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/0...14-inmates

I wasn't purposely exaggerating the number. I've heard it from multiple news agencies. CNN even said it on the air yesterday when they were discussing this latest move by Obama.

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18-01-2017, 01:47 PM
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A sitting President can't render a former's pardons null/void, can he?

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18-01-2017, 01:56 PM
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I think this is an excellent decision. I want people in the military to think about the moral ramifications of what they are doing and not just following orders and then hiding behind that as an excuse.

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