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12-03-2011, 11:11 AM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
Thew new world order doesn't seem to be real, It's just that it makes me wonder why is there so many Illuminati symbols in those movies, and on the american bills...

I don't think new world order will happen, I see zeitgeist making their stuff happens, but I have heard the bush talking about the new world order a long time ago, don't think it will happen, because the people will definitely revolt if there were to be such a evil group...

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12-03-2011, 11:11 AM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
(12-03-2011 10:53 AM)BnW Wrote:  I'd also throw in his total sell out on financial reform.

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No doubt on both counts!

It really gets to the dripping sarcasm of Palin saying how do you like that hopey changey thing now...

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12-03-2011, 01:33 PM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
(12-03-2011 11:11 AM)Laxion Wrote:  Thew new world order doesn't seem to be real, It's just that it makes me wonder why is there so many Illuminati symbols in those movies, and on the american bills...

Those are masonic symbols. If you know history, the Masons of the enlightenment period were almost a pantheistic or deistic free-thinking haven.
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12-03-2011, 02:15 PM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
Oh.... I see, I guess that might explain part of it, but the most controversial is the 9/11 scenes.

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12-03-2011, 08:33 PM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
(12-03-2011 02:15 PM)Laxion Wrote:  Oh.... I see, I guess that might explain part of it, but the most controversial is the 9/11 scenes.

The .... what?

No, never mind. Don't answer that. I really don't want to know.

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16-03-2011, 06:22 PM
 
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
(11-03-2011 09:59 PM)gamutman Wrote:  brought us into compliance with the Geneva Conventions

You had me going up until then. Obama has fully embraced the foreign policy of George W Bush and if anything, has expanded it.

The "most liberal" president ever and "socialist" tag just don't apply. If they were true, I would be more than happy.

I haven't lived through any presidents with any sensible political consciousness besides Bush and Obama, but I'm sure that this country has produced better examples of liberalism than Obama.

The sad (or not so sad, depending on your POV) part is, the majority of people in this country are conservative. We liberals are just plain outnumbered.
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16-03-2011, 07:21 PM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
Posted it before and I'll post it again.

The Obameter


To date:

Promise Kept: 134
Compromise: 41
Promise Broken: 40
Stalled: 69
In the Works: 220

Getting rid of the Compromised and Stalled (which were are essentially promises that Republicans interfered with, aka No Tax Cuts for the Wealthy, etc), he's doing what he said he would do at more than a 3:1 ratio. And when you consider that he's been in office for slightly over 2 years, and he's accomplished 134 things... that's better than most presidents do in 8 years.

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16-03-2011, 08:02 PM
 
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
I fully accept that Obama has accomplished a lot, but I just wouldn't call his especially liberal, unless liberal means having a record of accomplishment.

And I also understand that his true ideology may be a liberal, but that the realities of Washington force him to sacrifice that.
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16-03-2011, 10:34 PM
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There really are no true liberal or conservative presidents. We always have slightly left and slightly right. Which is generally a good thing, as illustrated by this random image.

[Image: left_right_political_spectrum_011.jpg]

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16-03-2011, 11:11 PM
RE: Obama the best Republican President since Reagan?
(16-03-2011 10:34 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  There really are no true liberal or conservative presidents. We always have slightly left and slightly right. Which is generally a good thing, as illustrated by this random image.

[Image: left_right_political_spectrum_011.jpg]

That is the worst conceived political spectrum I've ever seen.

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