Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
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02-08-2015, 01:30 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 12:23 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 08:14 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I forgive you for being a fucking idiot.

I forgive you for calling me a fucking idiot.

I forgive you for being a fucking idiot.

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02-08-2015, 01:38 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 01:27 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:12 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  What part of if makes no sense to you?

The fact that the bolded parts are inconsistent.

If your annual income increases by 1 dollar your monthly premium goes up by the smaller amount. If you multiply that smaller amount by 12(because there are 12 months in a year), that is how much you lose in government subsidies/tax credits for an entire year.
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02-08-2015, 01:44 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 01:38 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 01:27 AM)Chas Wrote:  The fact that the bolded parts are inconsistent.

If your annual income increases by 1 dollar your monthly premium goes up by the smaller amount. If you multiply that smaller amount by 12(because there are 12 months in a year), that is how much you lose in government subsidies/tax credits for an entire year.

I forgive you for the fact you don't know how to file taxes.

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02-08-2015, 01:46 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 01:30 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 12:23 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I forgive you for calling me a fucking idiot.

I forgive you for being a fucking idiot.

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02-08-2015, 01:54 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 01:46 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 01:30 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I forgive you for being a fucking idiot.

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02-08-2015, 02:08 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 01:46 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 01:30 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I forgive you for being a fucking idiot.

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02-08-2015, 02:20 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 12:29 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 07:03 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  So when you presented the argument above that the difference between someone who meets the criteria for assistance and one who does not meet the criteria is unjust were you being disingenuous? Are you prepared to defend your argument by proposing an alternative you would accept?

I didn't present the argument you claim I presented. I never said anything about "meeting criteria for assistance". I don't know what you are talking about but it looks to me you are on the way to strawman town.

(29-07-2015 01:47 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I asked him how he will ever get ahead if government programs that he depends on create incentives for him not improve and grow his business? He didn't have an answer. Does anyone here have an answer?
(30-07-2015 10:54 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Try this on an exchange. Create a fictitious household. Male 53, Female 52, child 13. Non tobacco users. The tax credit is $281.11 at a household income of $79,160. The tax credit is $0 at a household income of $79,161.

A $1 increase in annual income would cause the family to lose a $3372 annual tax credit.

Am I getting your proposition wrong?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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02-08-2015, 02:40 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 02:08 AM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 01:46 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  میبخشمت

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02-08-2015, 02:43 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
(02-08-2015 02:20 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  
(02-08-2015 12:29 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I didn't present the argument you claim I presented. I never said anything about "meeting criteria for assistance". I don't know what you are talking about but it looks to me you are on the way to strawman town.

(29-07-2015 01:47 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I asked him how he will ever get ahead if government programs that he depends on create incentives for him not improve and grow his business? He didn't have an answer. Does anyone here have an answer?
(30-07-2015 10:54 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Try this on an exchange. Create a fictitious household. Male 53, Female 52, child 13. Non tobacco users. The tax credit is $281.11 at a household income of $79,160. The tax credit is $0 at a household income of $79,161.

A $1 increase in annual income would cause the family to lose a $3372 annual tax credit.

Am I getting your proposition wrong?
Yes because that is not a proposition. That is input. You input those into an exchange and it will tell you which plans are available and what their monthly costs are. Increase your annual income by a $1 and your annual cost for a plan increases by $3372 ($281.11 X 12 months).

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02-08-2015, 05:19 AM
RE: Obamacare, keeping the poor in poverty
So do you have a proposition to make?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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